Basketball Goal (no court) in Showcase
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Another thing I rejected is now featured in the Showcase. Aren't goals by themselves supposed to be rejected as mass produced, and require a court to be eligible? Not just set up beside a parking lot?
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In a lot of play areas in the UK, you just get the goal and a square of tarmac, not a whole court. 99% of these have been accepted as "sports equipment" type POIs, the same as "excercise machines".
No, Nothing has ever said that as far as I'm aware, its really only reject if its in a parking lot or something like that
There is nothing suggesting it should be rejected in a parking lot.
It's subjective, at best, for locations with shared pedestrian & motor vehicle access.
I agree that it is subjective. Personally, I reject these types of nominations, but I understand the counter argument.
Was Thinking more of the pedestrian safety with that kne and I'm sure that was brought up before to reject if on a parking lot, but maybe I'm remembering wrong
@gazzas89-ING @JSteve0-ING I've argued on both sides before, but I haven't seen any specific clarification (forums, AMA, or other) that outright condones or endorses parking lots. There is some leeway for areas "deemed safe by local laws" if we are still considering anything relevant from prior AMAs (see https://ingressama.com/search?q=Safe+passage). If we ignore the AMAs then the only current clarifications we have is multiple statements of "can it be safely reached" and a rejection reason being "location is unsafe, without pedestrian access."
That basketball hoop itself appears to be on the edge of a parking lot, possibly in the back and if so it would likely be safe. If it was in the middle of a parking lot or perhaps near a blind driveway, I might take that into consideration and rate the safe access lower or reject. I found this in Satellite and the tree coverage makes it difficult to tell, but it doesn't look like a painted court that would block traffic. Also to the point of that hoop - it appears there is a field behind it with all sorts of safe pedestrian access that you would never question and be able to safely stand at and touch the object.
We've asked @NianticCasey-ING dozens of times for clarification on locations with shared pedestrian and motor vehicle access and never been given an explicit answer, and instead we've lost previous clarifications. The way the AMAs are going we're probably going to be forced to only be able to rely on those for real answers, which is unfortunate when they get hijacked by S2 cell questions.
To the question about it being mass produced and requiring a court, I do think that's something worth considering and one hoop in a parking lot does not a 5 star candidate make. But for the people in the area who may use it on a regular basis and may not have other bigger and better parks to play in (or maybe those parks are overcrowded), I see this as having the same and still falling under eligible criteria of being a place that encourages exercise.
(One last obligatory note: Featured Wayspots do NOT mean something is eligible. They are NOT reviewed and/or curated by Niantic and should not influence your voting opinion, as it is all too common for ineligible/abusive nominations to end up being featured.)