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Happy with the three choices, or want to discuss why you voted for your choice?
I’m happy with the three but not sure which one to go for
Several reviewers are gonna suffer heart attacks when they see the Duplicates section in Brazil and Turkey.
Personally I would prefer to go for South Africa, but seeing Turkey in the list also caught my interest, since Pokemon GO was officially released in Turkey.., 2 months ago? (Yes, I didn't realize it until now)
Any information of number of Wayspots per capita for each 3 countries?
We can also help Lesotho and Eswatini to get wayspots through reviewing South Africa.
Both countries had less than 100 wayspots when I checked 2 months ago.
(though there might be more now)
South Africa needs my love. Didnt Turkey just get thousands of random pokestops? Brazil, don´t know. it is South Africa
The real question that should be asked is this: @NianticGiffard, will this WF challenge be served with a side of Scam like the previous one? Also, will the Extreme Makeover team be ready at the end to relocate the goalposts like they did in the Russia challenge?
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This time for Africa
Someone who's familiar with South African nominations: what language are they typically in? I know that English is a lingua franca there, but I also know that there's a bazillion different local languages.
if you select Cape Town, most will be english. just take quick stroll on intel ingress and look at the wayspots
Rough figures (hopefully this table appears formatted correctly):
Country | Wayspots | Population | Wayspots Per Capita | Area (m2) | Wayspots per m2
Brazil | ~760,125 | 211,000,000 | 0.003602488 | 8,515,767 | 0.09
South Africa | ~42,412 | 58,560,000 | 0.000724249 | 1,221,037 | 0.03
Turkey | ~65,679 | 82,000,000 | 0.000800963 | 783,356 | 0.08
From what I observed:
No kidding, I see the forums flooding with reports.
Since voting, it is likely Brazil. They have the largest player base. They will simply vote for it without having any intention of reviewing themselves. South Africa probably makes the most sense. It didn't have the foursquare data import. It has the least density. It addresses the constant request for African reviewing help by various reviewers who want to help areas.
I voted for South Africa as well.
Turkey is one of the countries who benefited from the automatic addition Foursquare Database Pokestops a while back. I still keep getting photo reviews for truly terrible now-existent Pokestops from there.
Not sure what Niantic's intention is in making it a challenge candidate, considering how terrible their response to the Foursquare business was.
The fact that Brazil is very large will result in a similar problem as we had in Russia... You either choose a position where you will barely have anything to review, or you go for the large cities that already have a lot of spots anyway.
The thing is: I don't really want to select a major city. Those are usually pretty well saturated with Wayspots already. I see these challenges as a way to help areas with few reviewers and Wayspots. I didn't select major population centers in India or Russia and I'm not going to select one in South Africa/Brazil/Turkey either.
If this is even possible, where should I set up the bonus location?
Checking the map, I saw some possible cities like Pretoria, Johannesburg, Durban and Bloemfontein (that are quite nearby those two countries), but I really need to know more about their culture, including language used for nominations.
I would like to review in South Africa, but as some others mentioned: I would like to review for smaller towns, so games could be playable in all country, not just in the biggest towns. But it looks like there might be not that many nominations to review apart from the biggest towns, so wayfarer challenge will end really quickly, after reviewing 2-3 nominations per person.
So, if there isn't enough nominations to review apart for the biggest towns in SA, I would rather choose Brasil, as it's really big and it's easier to find location apart from really big town to get many nominations to review.
Turkey would be my last choice because of it being flooded with these bad database POIs not that long ago, so it's not that many places with no POIs.
I will help no matter which country of these 3 will be choosen, but I would still prefer South Africa or Brasil as first priority :)
I don't really think that there's much of a difference between Brazil and SA in this regard: smaller towns and more remote locations will have fewer nominations in both places (and everywhere else), I think.
I think instead we should have a challenge in Russia. It is really needed.
Yes, but Brasil has much bigger population (and seems to have more players in community that could nominate), so it at least seems to be easier to find smaller towns with more nominations available in Brasil, or location that should allow to review more than one town.
I tried to compare some smaller locations in SA and in Brasil, and some small towns in Brasil seems to be much bigger than in SA, so it could means they should have some more nominations to vote here. I would love to review in SA more, if we would get to review nominations from much bigger area, or could chane our location more than once during chalenge. Without it like that, it seems that we would have chance to review more in Brasil.
But I can be wrong here, as I can't really say which country has more nominations waiting to be reviewed. But at first glance it looks like we could review much more in Brasil than in SA.
We don't know how Niantic will decide the next challenge location from the results of this vote. Even if Brazil had a larger playerbase and gets more votes, Niantic isn't under any obligation to follow that vote. This could be more along the lines of a survey to them.
I disagree with the sentiment of your comment but the second line truly did make me laugh.
Niantic just needs to not dangle massive rewards in front of those who put in bare minimum effort. The ability for people to earn one agreement and get 10 upgrades was what caused so many issues. Rewards should be tied to individual performance, not the group performance as a whole.
I voted for Brazil simply because I think it will help the most players, but I hope the challenge comes to all of these place. If all three of these places were deemed worthy of a challenge, there is no reason we can't run one challenge a month for the next three months.
I know there are people out there that like to point out that many African nations have few or zero wayspots, but I would be willing to bet that those places also have very few players to benefit from a challenge like this.
Unless they simply stop holding these events (and I see no indication of that), I suspect it's just a matter of what order they do these three countries.
I'm interested helping areas with only a few Waypoints, but not intrested in clearing backlog in some far away destination. South Africa it is?
I've voted to bless the raids down in Africa... Sorry, that was terrible.
South Africa is the most interesting choice for me though.
From a virtual tourist perspective South Africa is my choice.
I really hope Niantic has improved the mechanism for this, though. I should just be able to opt into the challenge and have all of South Africa (or whatever the country is) show up in my reviews rather than having to make a decision about a specific location based on nothing but guesswork, and hoping that I've made a good decision. Niantic has much better information than players about where our efforts should be focused.
I wish they would do this as well. They've already implemented geographic boundaries where reviews are sourced from for when we get them outside of our areas of play/locations. Why not use those same boundaries to source nominations to review for events? Would help get a lot of rural stuff reviewed from these areas in addition to populated centers.
I actually reviewed in Brasil for several years already. Turkey could be exciting but I went South Africa.