Russia wayfarer eligibility clarification request based on GDPR data
Hotstriker9-PGO
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@NianticGiffard please help me understand here. I received my data request from your team for info regarding my wayfarer account. Here is what I have.
I have the following candidate IDs that I viewed during the Russia wayfarer challenge period. 2 of them were in Moscow and this all occurred after changing my hometown to Moscow I additionally included my voting records on the submissions that gave me a voting record 3 of them did not show I voted based on Niantics records despite doing so, and one has my votes as blank not sure what those are about. I confirmed I did not skip any based on the skipped log I was provided.
Of those 4 odd candidates were the 2 Russian waypoints I saw those 2 and they just didn’t get my votes recorded for some reason and that’s why I was ineligible?
Or were the other candidates I voted on at least one Russian and I should have been eligible?
Can you look at the candidate IDs to see which 2 were from Russia and help me understand how I was ineligible despite following all instructions given?
if the ones missing my votes were the Russian ones then at least I know it was some sort of bug not recording my votes
Candidates that I was assigned to review based on Niantics logs:
7deafa8a63e73f1c7ba6c76870621731 - 2021-06-14 02:30:15 GMT
7eff030157ca01cc711857af91c2731e - 2021-06-14 02:30:25 GMT
b948062a1fe4ea61f83ea3d647aba391 - 2021-06-14 02:30:43 GMT
b1516a21b00f33814f7c45b008ca0afb - 2021-06-14 02:30:57 GMT
8380580c1a1fd67f7e633e6f7b6c1248 - 2021-06-14 02:31:20 GMT
2cea5b800869effacd95cd9f4b3ab0f3 - 2021-06-14 02:31:42 GMT not listed in voting record below
f3f2f0a36d09286ab430699cfdb42cc5 - 2021-06-14 02:32:00 GMT rating appeared blank in voting record below
20e76bdcd6a0f77e4c47701c055f83cc - 2021-06-14 02:32:08 GMT not listed in voting record below
268d5b801f432e14db7474872e78b2f4 - 2021-06-14 02:32:23 GMT not listed in voting record below
Additionally I have my actual voting records for each candidate below:
{"Candidate ID":"7deafa8a63e73f1c7ba6c76870621731","Assigned Time":"2021-06-14 02:30:15 GMT","Comment":"","Rating for Cultural":"","Rating for Text":"","Is Duplicate":"false","Duplicate of Portal":"","Rating for Location":"","Suggested Location":"","Rating for Quality":"","Rating for Safety":"","One Star Submission":"false","Time":"2021-06-14 02:30:24 GMT","Rating for Uniqueness":"","What is it?":""},
{"Candidate ID":"7eff030157ca01cc711857af91c2731e","Assigned Time":"2021-06-14 02:30:25 GMT","Comment":"","Rating for Cultural":"4","Rating for Text":"5","Is Duplicate":"false","Duplicate of Portal":"","Rating for Location":"5","Suggested Location":"","Rating for Quality":"5","Rating for Safety":"5","One Star Submission":"false","Time":"2021-06-14 02:30:42 GMT","Rating for Uniqueness":"5","What is it?":""},
{"Candidate ID":"b948062a1fe4ea61f83ea3d647aba391","Assigned Time":"2021-06-14 02:30:43 GMT","Comment":"Kids in photo","Rating for Cultural":"","Rating for Text":"","Is Duplicate":"false","Duplicate of Portal":"","Rating for Location":"","Suggested Location":"","Rating for Quality":"","Rating for Safety":"","One Star Submission":"true","Time":"2021-06-14 02:30:57 GMT","Rating for Uniqueness":"","What is it?":""},
{"Candidate ID":"b1516a21b00f33814f7c45b008ca0afb","Assigned Time":"2021-06-14 02:30:57 GMT","Comment":"","Rating for Cultural":"5","Rating for Text":"5","Is Duplicate":"false","Duplicate of Portal":"","Rating for Location":"3","Suggested Location":"","Rating for Quality":"5","Rating for Safety":"5","One Star Submission":"false","Time":"2021-06-14 02:31:19 GMT","Rating for Uniqueness":"5","What is it?":""},
{"Candidate ID":"8380580c1a1fd67f7e633e6f7b6c1248","Assigned Time":"2021-06-14 02:31:20 GMT","Comment":"","Rating for Cultural":"4","Rating for Text":"5","Is Duplicate":"false","Duplicate of Portal":"","Rating for Location":"5","Suggested Location":"","Rating for Quality":"5","Rating for Safety":"5","One Star Submission":"false","Time":"2021-06-14 02:31:41 GMT","Rating for Uniqueness":"5","What is it?":""},
{"Candidate ID":"f3f2f0a36d09286ab430699cfdb42cc5","Assigned Time":"2021-06-14 02:32:00 GMT","Comment":"","Rating for Cultural":"","Rating for Text":"","Is Duplicate":"false","Duplicate of Portal":"","Rating for Location":"","Suggested Location":"","Rating for Quality":"","Rating for Safety":"","One Star Submission":"false","Time":"2021-06-14 02:32:08 GMT","Rating for Uniqueness":"","What is it?":""}],
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Thanks for reaching out, @Hotstriker9-PGO! We have reviewed your account but couldn't find any Russian nominations reviewed during the event. The submission Ids you've shared belong to the Photos/Edits submission which was not considered for the challenge rewards.
Was just coming on here to update that support gave me a similar response. That does explain the 4 odd ones that reflected a differing voting pattern in the data packet sent to me. But doesn’t match up with my knowledge of the two in Moscow I did review a playground and a statue. For any future events is there a way to document live proof in the moment that would be accepted to overturn an ineligible decision should this ever happen again? Such as a screen recording of me signing in and voting on an eligible nomination for example? I just feel very jaded about the whole process since my perception was I did what was asked of me and should I participate in a future event I don’t want to be burned again and want to somehow have incontrovertible proof. @NianticGiffard i appreciate your time.
Can you check my account please?
Example:
Футуристичный Спортивный Комплекс 55.918738,37.816919" Mon Jun 14 2021 02:01:48 GMT+0200 (Central European Summer Time)
This definitely was not an edit and I am still waiting for any rewards.
Several people reviewed "Футуристичный Спортивный Комплекс" and few other nominations, google "Футуристичный Спортивный Комплекс community wayfarer", I counted at least 5.
It's probably a honeypot nomination which was not counted in agreements.
Guess it's time for canary warrant :) @NianticGiffard , if that nomination was a real nomination, NOT a honeypot or similar, could you please reply with this statement: "Футуристичный Спортивный Комплекс was a real nomination, counted as "reviewed Russian nomination" in the wayfarer challenge"?
@NianticGiffard and everybody else, who might be interested,
I've received my GDPR data as well and compared my locally recorded data and times with the three log files I got from the GDPR package: "OprAssignmentLog", "OprSkippedLog" and "OprSubmissionLog"
Since there might be some discrepancies with the actual times of submission, I've also checked previous and following assignments to get a 1/3 warranty of having the right submission ID.
I've also noticed some spotty logging, so either the servers didn't record everything properly, or there are additional log files, I didn't receive.
In any case, below is my comparison of five POIs in Moscow I have reviewed during the challenge:
1: Футуристичный Спортивный Комплекс - Mon Jun 14 2021 14:33:49 GMT @55.918738,37.816919
2: Якоря МГАВТ - Mon Jun 14 2021 14:41:16 GMT @55.685855,37.692829
3: 1914 Год - Mon Jun 14 2021 19:07:35 GMT @55.724059,37.6342
4: 45-мм противотанковая пушка - Tue Jun 15 2021 11:15:18 GMT @55.755694,37.618865
5: Два дома - Tue Jun 15 2021 18:49:31 GMT @55.746927,37.600252
To clarify:
I don't expect anything from this and stopped reviewing ever since, but my curiosity has not been satisfied and maybe it helps to shine light onto something, that seemingly appears to be amiss.
To hope future events and challenges may progress without any mistakes, for everyone who participates.
Thanks for writing in with the details. We have checked your account and can find some records indeed show you have reviewed during the event however we can confirm they are edits/photos and not nominations.
Thanks for the response. With this I conclude that the Wayfarer website may or may not present me (and evidently others, as seen in all the threads here) incorrect submission data, since the reviewed POIs in question did not appear as edits, but as nominations to me (us). Appreciate the valuable information on the matter.
Thanks for the insight @NianticGiffard. So it seems like the issue is that either
1) your database is wrong and incorrectly displays full nomination reviews as edits
or
2) edits for some reason are displayed to reviewers exactly the same as nominations are
(Should this be a wayspot, Rate title and description, Historic or Cultural Siginifcance, Visually Unique, Safe Access, Location Accuracy, each can be rated between 1 and 5 stars)
or
3) nomination reviews with the verdict or result DUPLICATE are counted as edits in your database. (An edit to the already existing Wayspot, this would make sense from how the system works as it adds the photo to the already existing Wayspot)
@Hotstriker9-PGO I'm curious what your "local" play area is? No need to be precise, I'm just curious what country, if you don't mind, or even continent.
I did not receive any rewards and every waypoint I reviewed stated "should this be a waypoint?"
I definitely even marked one as a duplicate. Which by definition means it was a new waypoint!
Either way, it means that hundreds or thousands of reviewers were deceived into thinking they had reviewed waypoints.
@NianticGiffard You should reward all players deceived by this presentation on Wayfarer.
Update to my case: So I finally got my data dump...the Wayfarer review file is 0kb, completely empty. They told me that's because none of my reviews are recent enough and they dont store data about it anymore. Which is interesting, because I did some reviews a few weeks before I requested my data.
This is deception of the highest order. I’ve not reviewed in over two months and prior to that I had done 10,000 plus reviews to help get wayspots for my community. Edits were clearly shown as reviews and you could even mark as duplicate. It’s horrible to lie to committed players @NianticGiffard and it’s very deflating. I can’t help but feel the fact you’re now
allowing 40 submissions than 7 shows there is increased backlog. This backlog would not have happened if you didn’t t lie and treat good honest reviewers with disdain and disrespect.
If they don't store review data, how did they ban for a month less of players in Germany due to reviews done months ago?
That I am wondering too.