New pokestops and gyms in the middle of the highway.
TrullaPeng-PGO
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Since Niantic added the stops from the foursquare data,many stops and gyms appeared in the middle of the highway.
Let's , forget about the stops and gyms, which are in an area which you can't reach physically and a bogus, but in the middle of the highway...Really?!
And this is just a small part.
I am not an conputer/software geek but I think,those things a multi million Dollar company could easily avoid such a thing. It is really a traffic hazard, with people play at their phone while driving ( I was a passenger).
This pictures are from Istanbul, Turkey and at this area are almost always traffic jams,so I really think, people are tempted to play on their phone.
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OMG I need this many pokestops!
The driving thing wouldn't matter to be honest. With the range increase last year on stops, you can be several cells away and still spin a stop. It may look weird, and probably should be fixed to be the physical building or a sign and not the street address but in reality it really doesn't matter unless the are truely inaccurate. All Niantic games tell you not to play while driving and PoGo asks if to confirm that you are a passenger once you start moving at a specific rate of speed. I get the concern, but in reality the issue would be there regardless. Its up to each driver to follow the rules of the road, not Niantic.
Maybe you are right about playing and driving. But we all know how people act.
Those stops are not even nowhere near a physical addresses. There are areas, which a normal person even can't excess ( kargo hub of airport and so on).
This data was surely claimed from foursquare and there is many bogus data. Maybe, the majority of player are happy about this stops and gyms but I doubt that it added quality to the game.
If these wayspots ever sync to Ingress, this would be even more of a problem than it already is, as you have to be right on top of the portal for some actions (like using ultra strikes).
If they are unsafe to access, you can report them using this form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScMmz3lD30kz7vc3XkxaHyJFggxhfmsuPd2XGaCidOV-yUtzQ/viewform provide the correct location, when applicable, and Niantic should be able to fix them.
https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/discussion/16876/an-update-on-newly-added-wayspots
The situation in Turkey is flabbergasting. I've been getting a ton of photo reviews from Turkey (well outside my usual review area) since the new wayspot database went online - I think maybe 3 of them were actually eligible, with the rest ranging from hill slopes to generic apartment buildings to supermarkets to... I don't know what the situation in other countries impacted by these new wayspots is, but I seriously don't know what Niantic were thinking when they pushed the Turkish database live.
Here's what the photo contribution situation looks like for one of my friends.
I could maybe report a few but there are way too many. The 2 photos just show a small part of a 20km drive. I don't know how it looks in other areas in Istanbul. It would be easier for Niantic do check their data, and remove those stops.
Holy hell. And I thought selfies taken by children were bad. Isn't there supposed to be a basic filtering system against cases like this?
Agreed. I'll say it again - I don't understand how Niantic could possibly expect users to report all the ineligible wayspots added by Niantic themselves when 1. The sheer number of these wayspots is simply massive and 2. The overwhelming majority of players don't care about the integrity of the game map, they just want more pokestops/gyms, and would not deliberately harm their own gaming experience 3. The overwhelming majority of player aren't even aware of the report form anyway.
It's a ridiculous situation. Niantic should've taken responsibility for their own mistake from the get go.
I like how a moderator removed the full res picture I posted.
I wonder if they considered:
Stops and gyms should NOT be on the road. It would be better if they were redirected to the curb on the side of the road to be safer. Even if those who are passengers in any vehicle attempt to notice these things, danger could still be imminent.
Hi there, @TrullaPeng-PGO thanks for flagging! If you could share the location, it will help us in our investigation and take appropriate action.
This doesnt look like niantics work. That looks like some heavy abuse considering the spacing of each one is literally perfect to the next
What are these named? We sadly like never have luck with sponsored pokestops here in germany except in Hamburg.
They’re not Sponsored ones. Niantic sometimes fills low POI areas with locations pulled from Foursquare’s database.
The report was filed three and a half months ago, and the user followed up later the same day to say they’re in Istanbul. I’m somewhat doubtful they’ve been lurking around here all this time anticipating a follow up inquiry.
I guess it helps to keep the lawyers satisfied, but this doesn’t do much for anyone else.
Why don't you clean up your won mess? Seriously, this is all your doing. Wayfarer already try to be the janitors for all their abuse-ridden communities, but now they should care about poi you blindly add to the game?
Huh, I'm guessing its from "maps" locations. So many places in Google Maps, Apple Maps, etc just have business location pins plopped in the middle of parking lots or on roads. In my area (in PoGo only of course) the Verizon sponsored gyms some are just randomly on top of eachother in the road nowhere near their location. Because mapping had the address for them out on the edge of a road on the edge of a mall parking lot instead of inside the mall on the opposite end.
Really, now. If everyone are able to upload things into Foursquare and you guys just imported all of them into the games without any filtering, then what's the point of Wayfarer now?
What's this about Foursquare being the new Wayfarer?
WaySquarer?
Here is a subset of places where these imported POIs are around Istanbul.
A multitude of wayspots along the expressway. Makes for great pedestrian access.
More wayspots along a congested expressway and completely littered across an entire private residential estate. The estate is actually a gated community on a hill.
Wayspots around Istanbul Airport (can you see the two wayspots on the RUNWAY?!)
A multitude of wayspots accessible by ferry ONLY along the Strait of Istanbul. Hope you don't need to ultrastrike these or pray that your ferry passes by the portal with a bajillion fields coming off it.
And further south, wayspots heading out towards the Sea of Marmara...
And finally, the wayspots populated at the Incirlik Air Base. An Air Base. Bar a wayspot on a runaway, there is literally a wayspot near the barracks entitled İncirlik Air Base Army Camping. The majority of these have the default generic image so they are definitely from the Foursquare import.
When this issue came out with all these Pokestops populating in Istanbul, it seemed to only be on Pokemon Go, which NianticCasey advised that Ingress players didn't benefit from these new locations. Now that they're on Intel, what was only seen in Pokemon GO now shows an entirely different perspective of the viscousity of this Foursquare Import. Wayspots have been populated in military bases, airport runways, chemical plants, the middle of the sea, along and in the middle of freeways, residential estates
The cases of such nominations are only one of many. Below is the portal map of a large section of Istanbul. There are approximately 31,000 wayspots in this view. Might it be safe to assume that the clearly defined orange squares have benefited immensely from the Foursquare import? They are even denser than some of the countries major cities I've been to!
Referencing to NianticCasey's update on these newly added wayspots:
... feedback from Pokémon GO players in the regions in which these new locations were added has been overwhelmingly positive.
So it seems very unlikely that we will see comprehensive action taken on these wayspots. Besides, they now allow players in these regions to play, and to be frank this would extremely pique my interest in investigating these for myself in person. I guess as long as people are playing, it's a good thing, right? Pray tell that anyone on these forums voted for Turkey for the next Wayfarer Challenge Destination, now that would be a wasted concerted effort.
Do Melbourne, Australia next! (just kidding... ;P) The enrichment of the games by the magic pandora's box that is the Foursquare Import will absolutely provide immediate gratification to those who beg for a Pokestop at their house by providing them with such and then some. Why does anyone need Wayfarer or a Wayfarer Challenge when you can just ask for a Foursquare import?
Foursquare, trusted by the very best for POI data.
... but on a more serious note, this is not good. It gives the impression that every single generic store, telecommunications store, cafe, or even an Air Squadron Briefing Room can be approved and given the tens of thousands of "illegal" wayspots and someone saying that Wayfarer in Turkey is ruined. This isn't something that you can just back out of now, there are tens of thousands of wayspots imported here, and Istanbul is only one area. The Incirlik Air Base has many wayspots and all its surrounds, and it seems to be all throughout Turkey. Many people have flagged additional wayspots through the form in Casey's post but it seems there is barely any action. Besides, easy wayspots right?
If this is acceptable practice simply because feedback from players in the regions has been overwhelmingly positive, then there is no reason to be a diligent wayfinder. But hey, don't focus on existing wayspots as they are not good indicators of what currently meets criteria, right? This sets a very low bar and precedent for Wayfarer.
But goodness... look at all the uncapped portals! Perhaps we can "meet you out there" somewhere in one of these Foursquare-generated clusters? I would happily come to a First Saturday or Community Day if they were held in one of the orange quadrilaterals. This IS the future.
Hello @NianticGiffard
It's very easy to find Wayspots in the middle of the road, just load the intel map in Istambul and wonder how many people might get hit by a car https://intel.ingress.com/?pll=40.993569,28.818277
And don't forget your swimming suit while you're there https://intel.ingress.com/?pll=41.012756,28.998642
Congrats @NianticDanbocat you're doing an awesome job!
So now I'm confused - are these the same places that were dumped into Pokemon Go a while back and are just now making their way into Intel and Ingress because "oh we heard you Ingress and we know you want moar portals because it's not fair that only one game gets all this amazing benefit" or is this a whole new wave, which would contradict Niantic's statement saying they'd learned from their mistakes and would not repeat them? The ONE positive thing I took away from the last debacle was "at least they're not in Ingress" but I know that ran counter to what Niantic says I wanted. Garbage is apparently OK as long as it's plentiful garbage.
I do want more valid stuff in game and thought that was the point of the upcoming challenges - to get the manually nominated, great local candidates finally reviewed after an excessive wait. I was hoping that this wave was just the old Pogo stuff syncing up with the new-and-improved Lightship Ingress. I was prepared to take that as a positive step, because maybe my missing portal was next in line? Now, I'm not sure.
The location seems to be in Istanbul, Turkey.
From what NianticThia wrote on the Ingress forum, Ingress has been updated to the latest/current version of Niantic LightShip, meaning that Ingress is now on the same system as PoGo, hence the mass import of these disgusting FourSquare POI's.
Challenges, reviewing, nominating, it's all become worthless if random junk from another database can just be added like this.
While seeing this tread i wanted to look at istanbul from the Ingress map and wonder why there are so many wayspots in the water and if these are eligible
Eligible? They’re already in-game!