Another post with obvious edits
LukeAllStars-ING
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Title of the wayspot: below
location: below
City: Lodz
Country: Poland
1. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.765896,19.415718&z=17&pll=51.765896,19.415718
Correct location:
Evidence:
2. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.76468,19.4212&z=17&pll=51.76468,19.4212
Correct local
tion:
Evidence: Anywhere at the blue line would be correct, most accurate is the green dot.
3. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.764142,19.404282&z=17&pll=51.764142,19.404282
Evidence: It’s a K12 POI, it’s behind the fence of the school (https://szkolagortata.pl/minerska.html): https://www.google.pl/maps/@51.7640114,19.4043163,3a,15y,337.43h,89.8t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1saUbUxQQExNn6dgb7LxE34Q!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DaUbUxQQExNn6dgb7LxE34Q%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D53.344482%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656
4. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.755774,19.4074&z=17&pll=51.755774,19.4074
Correct location:
5. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.755226,19.407418&z=17&pll=51.755226,19.407418
Correct location:
6. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.755111,19.415295&z=17&pll=51.755111,19.415295
Correct location:
Evidence: Current location is not at the object, it should be on the right side of that building (red outline):
7. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.751068,19.418083&z=17&pll=51.751068,19.418083
Correct location:
8. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.733769,19.500251&z=17&pll=51.733769,19.500251
Correct location:
Evidence:
9. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.734471,19.501326&z=17&pll=51.734471,19.501326
Correct location:
Evidence:
10. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.734744,19.49919&z=17&pll=51.734744,19.49919
it’s a K12.
11. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.792966,19.393258&z=17&pll=51.792966,19.393258
Correct location:
Evidence:
13. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.79903,19.383971&z=17&pll=51.79903,19.383971
Correct location:
Evidence: It’s on the north wall of that building:
Also, there are multiple of those sprays all around the house.
14. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.794833,19.369454&z=17&pll=51.794833,19.369454
Correct location:
Evidence: It is right next to the tree:
15. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.821339,19.415729&z=17&pll=51.821339,19.415729
Correct location:
Evidence: Not even at that train station (current location is at the pedestrian bridge nearby it), any location in the green zone would be correct:
16. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.819861,19.424448&z=17&pll=51.819861,19.424448
Correct location:
Evidence: Any location in the green field would be fine
17. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.818451,19.428349&z=17&pll=51.818451,19.428349
Correct location:
Evidence: Street view is useless, but Google Earth is very helpful:
18. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.806409,19.435458&z=17&pll=51.806409,19.435458
Correct location:
19. POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.804854,19.434856&z=17&pll=51.804854,19.434856
Correct location:
Evidence: Geoportal satellite view, newer than street view and OSM:
POI: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.804567,19.435787&z=17&pll=51.804567,19.435787
Correct location:
Evidence: Geoportal satellite view, newer than street view and OSM:
Comments
Since when it’s "obvious edit abuse" in the case of POIs being off by no more than few meters? Requesting the help of Niantic employees to move something by 2 meters is an abuse of this forum and abuse of the respect your account gained over the years.
To Niantic employees who might read this: you’re being manipulated to do a batch edit of POIs outside of Wayfarer system which will destroy many Pokémon GO gyms, moving them into areas which already have maximum allowed number of gyms. The provided "correct" location is almost irrelevant because all this user is doing is moving POIs across Level 10 S2 cell (so called Weather S2 cell). Many of those examples do not need to be moved, here is your very own guidelines:
Placemarkers for Large Areas
Larger areas like dog parks or sport fields make great Wayspots, but it is important to choose the right placement of the Wayspot that respects the activity it was designed to support. Instead of placing the Wayspot in the center of an open field, park, or other large area, place it at the entrance or where there is a visible sign or placemarker. That encourages you to approach the area to visit the Wayspot, without having to enter or interfere with the activities within.
This post (and many like this in the past, look at this user’s history with POI edits) is not productive. If this user wanted to fix POIs, they would have submitted an actual edit in-game. However, they cannot do that as they’re not really playing the game in Łódź, or in Gdańsk or in any other city they are so willing to report "abuse" from.
Niantic, guys, you’re being played – blindly accepting batch edits like these is circumventing your established process of weeding out edits made in bad faith. This is an abuse disguised as something that fights abuse. And those posts will keep coming.
I urge you to change your process on reports like these because it’s being used to deal damage to communities for twisted personal reasons. Please, I implore you to listen.
Surely I want to abuse the system. No, Im just a perfectionist. And what difference is it between the forum and the ingame scanner? Correct. A neutral person is reviewing the Edits. Theres enough Wayfarer abuse which would make getting such edits getting aproved pretty hard.
Edits through this forum should be for appeals or for stuff that is not possible to do in game.
When you openly claim you don't use the proper system at all (because it takes too long) and just do everything through here, yeah, you are abusing it.
If Niantic keeps on validating this procedure, everybody will just report everything here, and Niantic could just disable the in game feature and hire a lot of people to answer all the demand here. Taco Bell Arena is still called Taco Bell Arena after 2 years, because people tried to edit the name in game, instead of posting here.
Maybe you started as a perfectionist, but in several of your latest post it's clear that your goal isn't the improvement of the system, but to try to attack other people by finding micro-movements that would disturb the pokemon go map, and you've already stated that.
It's not hard to notice that this isn't possible just by looking at the Wayfarer map or Intel and it takes 0 seconds to realize that you're being used as a puppet by another person, one that several people have stated that has been using multiple accounts and now has a live puppet that can control from his home and meanwhile laughs at all the damage that he keeps on doing around him.
It's sad to see all of this.
https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/discussion/21024/40-location-edits
They did this same in Rzeszów and they do it out of pure malice and for their own joy.
there is no other reason
@LukeAllStars-ING moving something 10, 20 or 30 meter to its real location is alright in my opinion. But 1,84 meter? 2,59? That's ridiculous and should be done by the ingame edit option and after rejection maybe here. You are damaging your own cause with things like these.
Just, what's happening in Poland?
Isn't there anyone in Poland able to request those themshelves, until someone in Germany do those requests instead?
They don't want to. They want to keep their abusively added POIs. Got another bigger comment which needs approval with more about this topic.
I do get that "trying to attack the community" is not the way to go. That's also not what I want. But just think about this:
An edit would not make any difference to the game, as long as the POI stays in the same lvl 17 s2 cell. Only exception: The lvl 17 cell holds more than one PokeStop/Gym or the lvl 14 s2 cell has more gyms than it should have.
So edits like this wouldn't make any difference for the game, as long as there is no abuse (more PokeStops/Gyms with edits) involved.
Now is the question: why do the local players cry about those edits? If there is no cell change, it should not matter, right?
And BTW, there are no cell changes on the micro edits:
So, do things like this would get so much hate by the community? Correct, they should not care at all. Why do they care? Should be obvious...
Also, none of the edits are wrong. All of them are correct. Even though they are small, they are all valid.
I think that the bigger edits with cell switches are more likely also misplaced for cells or edited multiple times. At least, they are obvious and should not be rejected.
So, am I really trying to destroy a community? Or am I just fixing cell abuse? The answer is visible in the reaction of the "local" players...
And BTW, I do get that I am the "bad guy" here. But am I really the bad guy? Just because a bigger amount of users say that, it may not be correct. You can for example also put 10 ten Republicans with one Democrat in the same room. Guess whos the bad guy there!?
Here you admit you are making these moves just to manipulate the PGO board:
You probably see yourself as a "righteous punisher" and think you are doing good, but you are still doing moves only to manipulate a specific game board, and it is abuse. You should report the clusters and have Niantic handle them as they wish (and they ignore them, I know, but it's Niantic's decision). You don't fight abuse by abusing the system even more.
Here you seem to confirm you are actually targeting Gyms:
I totally agree when you are moving stuff that is incorrect by large distances (there's some good examples in this thread), but when you move an object by 2 meters it's just ridiculous. The motivation behind these moves makes even the good ones fishy as well.
Also, it seems you don't understand how perspective works in these maps (or don't care, unless it's convenient for a cell change). You should always be targeting the base of the objects in the map, otherwise you may be wrong by a few meters if the object is tall enough. As you are making 1.54m corrections, it becomes something very important, and you often miss it badly.
Number 8 here is an example, you make it seem like a "big" (if we are calling 6m big) move, while a 1m move would already make it on top of the object, and when the current position is already very resonable.
@NianticGiffard @NianticTintino Would you comment on this please?
Hi @LukeAllStars-ING! We have reviewed the report and have taken action on the 17 Wayspots and the 9 Wayfinders in accordance with our policies. While we are unable to discuss our actions in detail to protect the submitter’s privacy, they may include, but are not limited to, sending a warning message, placing restrictions on their Wayfarer, Pokémon GO, or Ingress account, putting their account on probation, or placing a temporary or permanent suspension on their Wayfarer, Pokémon GO or Ingress account.
Thanks for helping us maintain the quality of the Wayspots.