Hospitals In General

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  • MargariteDVille-INGMargariteDVille-ING Posts: 346 ✭✭✭

    @NianticGiffard Could you please make a statement about hospitals?

    Since wayspots are two-dimensional, how can we know if a wayspot on a piece of art on the first floor is blocking an emergency ICU on the third floor? Are we only supposed to worry about Emergency Room ground floor entrances?

    Thank you.

  • auntergaof-PGOauntergaof-PGO Posts: 69 ✭✭✭

    @NianticGiffard The problem is that there are a certain number of judges who think that anywhere on the hospital premises could interfere with the operations. It would be better if the places that meet the rejection criteria (lobbies, emergency exits, etc.) were specifically listed.

  • yasubox-INGyasubox-ING Posts: 3 ✭✭
    edited September 14

    @NianticGiffard

    Can something in a hospital qualify? I read a statement like this once.

    NianticCasey-ING Posts

    What parts of a hospital or on a hospital grounds are acceptable considering the emergency services guideline? Specifically hospital gardens, artwork, statues, historical markers or other indoor locations at hospitals.

    When considering Wayspots at a hospital, please avoid locations where gameplay would get in the way of medical professionals and other essential workers. This guideline should also be applied to all areas where essential work is happening. Unfortunately, that means that locations inside and around a hospital are ineligible. Gardens or statues outside that are publicly accessible could be eligible so long as playing nearby wouldn’t interfere with hospital operations. 


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  • MargariteDVille-INGMargariteDVille-ING Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited September 14

    @NianticGiffard Are you sure you want to change the hospital guidance to say that the ONLY sensitive place on hospital grounds is the emergency room driveway? So if a hospital cafeteria has a nice statue, with surgery rooms and ICU above that cafeteria, you're saying the art is a good wayspot. Most people in this thread agree with you that anything should be fine inside a hospital (if it qualifies otherwise). But I think NianticCasey's reply makes far more sense, safety wise.

    BUT Wayfarer criteria change, and I try to keep up.

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  • patsufredo-PGOpatsufredo-PGO Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As far as I can catch up:

    Statues/fountains in front of main lobby or emergency entrance -> fast 1* rejection

    Hospital park, library, chapel or mosque far from emergency services -> acceptable

    Statues, paintings, etc. on the ground floor but there are any ICU on the same spot but different floor -> acceptable(?)

  • CipherBlakk-PGOCipherBlakk-PGO Posts: 209 ✭✭✭

    Statues in front of a main lobby would be fine. Usually that's separate from the emergency entrance. If it's in something like a roundabout with pedestrian access, I think it would still be fine, because you're still not blocking the emergency entrance. These things don't necessarily have to be FAR from the emergency area, just not in a position to block it. Same floor is fine, as long as the ICU is a different area.

    As far as the different floor thing, I think you would be hard-pressed to tell that an ICU is right above or below you, unless you, as the submitter or reviewer, investigated where all these things were. I think if you can show in your photos that whatever POI you find inside is simply in a normal common area/walkway then you're fine.

    If you default to the simple (correct) reading of the criteria, the only rule of thumb is that the POI itself doesn't interfere with operations. I don't think it's relevant or practical to consider the three dimensional space on floors above or below it, which don't actually contain that POI.

  • RedActedS-PGORedActedS-PGO Posts: 72 ✭✭

    In my area, we often send out private cars instead of ambulances during childbirth, and when we do so, we often park our cars in front of the regular lobby instead of the emergency vehicle entrance.

    I don't think a statue in the lobby would interfere with this, but the front door is not something I agree with.

  • sogNinjaman-INGsogNinjaman-ING Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just been reading the most recent comments on this tread, then this "nomination" appears on my screen for review.

    Clearly the person submitting this has no understanding or has not read the Niantic accept / reject criteria.

  • SlicedPeas-INGSlicedPeas-ING Posts: 296 ✭✭✭

    If you think that is bad, there is a local who keeps submitting the helicopter pad for the flight for life.

  • Oakes1923-PGOOakes1923-PGO Posts: 328 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 22

    Anything in Emergency room, entrance to, driveway to, or ER patient area is 1* rejection.

    Anything outside of that specific area that would be an eligible Wayspot normally is an eligible Wayspot within a hospital setting.

    Since you can't place portals on a vertical, everything is based on a x and y grid, the floor something is located on shouldn't matter. If it has the potential to block emergency access its a 1*. Keep in mind that when using terms like ICU's those are not emergency rooms. The ER is very different and separate from a surgery ward or ICU or outpatient services. Additionally the main lobby to many large hospitals are generally open to the public, have a reception area or information desk and are often adorned with art and statues from donors. They may have the ability to turn into an emergency response area if needed but that is not their intended purpose 99% of the time. These would normally make great locations for Wayspots, but each case needs to be judged on its own merits.

  • PDSchroeder-PGOPDSchroeder-PGO Posts: 7 ✭✭

    I will point out that this is not what anyone in the thread above who is for some stops in the hospital is advocating. Very likely, they're not even aware of stop acceptance/rejection criteria.

    In this instance, I happen to agree with you that this should absolutely be rejected.

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