How can I report a group ?

AvengerLK-INGAvengerLK-ING Posts: 2 ✭✭
edited May 2021 in General Discussion

How can I report a group of people in a city? They do many unfair activities: edit location of a pagoda to their home or edit location of many pokestop to 1 point ( the distance is very far). Submit a pokestop with harassment words. I reject many edit with wrong location. However, theyhave over than 30 accounts lv40 in pogo and they can do anything they want.

Do I report this location to Niantic to review? Many wrong location pokestop here but I can't reject them.

I also report some pokestop but no one review my report seriously.

My English is not good. Thank you so much!

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  • WheelTrekker-INGWheelTrekker-ING Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The ones between level 16 and level 18.

    You'd better search for the answer in Google because as soon as anything related to that topic is mentioned, there's people reporting the thread.

  • 0X00FF00-ING0X00FF00-ING Posts: 759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AvengerLK-ING If you post more details about the location (ie. the gps coordinates, such as you can find via google maps) then very often @NianticGiffard can get the wayfarer team to investigate.

    Niantic does indeed consider the editing of wayspots to positions away from their actual locations to be "abuse", and they normally take that pretty seriously.

  • 0X00FF00-ING0X00FF00-ING Posts: 759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks like this thread has come back from limbo lol @AlanAlice-ING

  • Hello @AvengerLK-ING! As mentioned by @0X00FF00-ING we require location details to have our team look into your report.

  • aleprj-INGaleprj-ING Posts: 561 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's just another account from that guy that had about 10 banned already.

  • patsufredo-PGOpatsufredo-PGO Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What an annoying guy...

    Back to the topic, judging from the network provider (and OP's story), I can tell that the cluster should be located somewhere in Vietnam (possibly Hanoi City), but I can't find its exact location. Maybe anyone else can filling in?

  • 29andCounting-PGO29andCounting-PGO Posts: 521 ✭✭✭✭

    Let me ask you guys a question. Do you honestly think that Niantic doesn't have the capability to do this? Why, do you suppose, that they don't do it already? Really think about it.

  • aleprj-INGaleprj-ING Posts: 561 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Avoiding these clusters (and other things such as duplicated photos being used to create fake wayspots) is something very trivial and it's hard to understand why it's not implemented.

  • Gendgi-PGOGendgi-PGO Posts: 3,064 Ambassador

    These edits are certainly disruptive to the "integrity" of the Wayfarer database and removing incentive to making such edits should be a priority of the Wayfarer abuse team. I do, however, suspect that the actions you are suggesting would have to happen on the app developer side rather than the Wayfarer side.

    That doesn't mean we shouldn't encourage the Wayfarer team to investigate ways to curb such abuse, just that the platforms have made it clear they don't intend to take such actions themselves.

  • Hosette-INGHosette-ING Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @29andCounting-PGO asks:

    Let me ask you guys a question. Do you honestly think that Niantic doesn't have the capability to do this? Why, do you suppose, that they don't do it already? 

    I think I have an answer to that. Yes, they have the technical capability. They don't have the corporate culture for it.

    I've been in the software industry for around three and a half decades. During that time I've worked at a couple of very large, well-known tech companies, several startups, and companies that went from startup to not-startup. Startups, by necessity, have a drive to get things done quickly. They grow and change rapidly. Quality and operational excellence are not key drivers at startups, and that's OK-- they're lean and scrappy, they take risks, and they do a "just good enough" job.

    Some startups do well enough that they grow into bigger companies. When that happens they need to develop a more mature corporate culture. Doing so takes time, but it also takes leadership...developing mature processes has to be a priority and those mindsets need to get baked into the culture. It's sort of like a child growing into an adult-- there's always an awkward teenager phase, but ideally the teenager gets good guidance and wisdom and learns how to be a grownup.

    I think Niantic is at the point of learning how to be an adult company. My post above was basically my leaning over to them and saying, "Hey, umm, you're not 17 anymore. It's time to learn how to clean up your own messes."

  • 0X00FF00-ING0X00FF00-ING Posts: 759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In my city's downtown, there's a couple of spots where there are "too many" pokestops in a given L17 cell. Neither was done abusively or maliciously, each was just done via the normal "edit" functionality -- because the business or the monument itself had moved.

    If those edits had been made with the current mechanics, then the moved wayspot would have simply vanished. Both spots are remarkably trivial to find just by looking at the map versus number-of-pokepoints. But given how many S2 cells there are in the world, it's likely prudent to only examine those cells in which location-edits had been made (assuming that historical data is still available).

    But given that one of those wayspots had taken me (ick) 7 attempts, due to lazy reviewing, I know which one I'd be rooting for in that cell lol

  • Elijustrying-INGElijustrying-ING Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can only assuming it is Niantic being Niantic.

    It is so obvious that if you have a large database that is being messed with, you need to have a programme checking it for anomalies.

    Niantic are not short of a bob or two.

    I personally hate the idea of an unstable gameboard.

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