Nice graffiti on the wall of a private house
Newjbc-PGO
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Hi, I'm new here and I often find beautiful graffiti on the wall outside a private home or on the wall of a business, next to a private home. Is it acceptable or not?
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aWildKeithApprd-PGO
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According to Niantic – private residence (i.e someone's primary living situation) is a no-no. Business are ok, or like, apartment or commerical buildings. Never a school.
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oscarc1-ING
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This has already been previously clarified in the AMA's:
Q4: An OPR one for you: In the UK, Historic England, local government and civic societies erect “blue plaques” to commemorate an event, (famous) person, former building, etc. that the location has a link with. Quite a few are placed on the exterior walls omcf private residences to commemorate the link with famous people (e.g. “so and so lived here from X to Y”, or “so and so was born in this house”) and we have been having some discussions in our local OPR chat group about the rating that these should be given. My take is that the ones on the sides of people’s houses should be rejected as 1*, even if they are visible from the pavement/sidewalk, as they are still on Private Residential and the specific Historic House guidance would apply – please can you confirm if this is a correct interpretation? p.s. what is your favourite type of tea?
A4: I spoke to NIA OPS, and they said your point of view on the situation is correct. If the location is currently in use as a private residence then the candidate should be 1* even if it has historical or cultural significance.
Murals, plaques, little free libraries, etc. that are on the wall of a private residential property should still be rejected, even if they face a public footpath.
I hear many arguments about this, saying that because it's public-facing that it should be eligible, the caveat here is that the object is technically still on private property, it doesn't matter how people try to spin it to justify their own nominations. Even a mural on the fence facing a public park, the fence is considered part of the private property, so therefore the mural would be eligible for that reason.
Niantic take a very hard stance on private residential property nominations and we should respect that.
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aWildKeithApprd-PGO
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Basically, all the Belfast murals (which Belfast are famous for) would be ineligible.
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According to Niantic – private residence (i.e someone's primary living situation) is a no-no. Business are ok, or like, apartment or commerical buildings. Never a school.
Worth clarifying too if the wall is inside the boundary of the property. In some countries homes abut the footpath. We have some really special properties eg where there is a plaque in a unique stone wall that is clearly intended for "public viewing". It seems a shame that these are rejected.
This to me is always a tough one, see if the mural/graffiti is on the side of a house but that side of the house is a public footpath, that's where there could be debate
This has already been previously clarified in the AMA's:
Q4: An OPR one for you: In the UK, Historic England, local government and civic societies erect “blue plaques” to commemorate an event, (famous) person, former building, etc. that the location has a link with. Quite a few are placed on the exterior walls omcf private residences to commemorate the link with famous people (e.g. “so and so lived here from X to Y”, or “so and so was born in this house”) and we have been having some discussions in our local OPR chat group about the rating that these should be given. My take is that the ones on the sides of people’s houses should be rejected as 1*, even if they are visible from the pavement/sidewalk, as they are still on Private Residential and the specific Historic House guidance would apply – please can you confirm if this is a correct interpretation? p.s. what is your favourite type of tea?
A4: I spoke to NIA OPS, and they said your point of view on the situation is correct. If the location is currently in use as a private residence then the candidate should be 1* even if it has historical or cultural significance.
Murals, plaques, little free libraries, etc. that are on the wall of a private residential property should still be rejected, even if they face a public footpath.
I hear many arguments about this, saying that because it's public-facing that it should be eligible, the caveat here is that the object is technically still on private property, it doesn't matter how people try to spin it to justify their own nominations. Even a mural on the fence facing a public park, the fence is considered part of the private property, so therefore the mural would be eligible for that reason.
Niantic take a very hard stance on private residential property nominations and we should respect that.
In that case, according to Niantic, it would still be PRP, as it's still on the property.
It would be the same if it was in a garden fence facing the footpath.
@NicoSolheim-ING I would arguenthatsbbased on American guidelines due to their court case there. Here if it's been painted on the side and allowed by the council, then that means it is no longer private but public (the mural) as the council have decided its public
Basically, all the Belfast murals (which Belfast are famous for) would be ineligible.
The guidelines, whilst America-centric, are global guidelines. Given how much laws can vary from country to country, it would be near impossible for Niantic to have guidelines that gets every single country, which is they're a blanket set of guidelines.
I'm not saying it's right hurt we need to keep in mind that they're an American company and will use US law as their basis.
@NicoSolheim-ING but every country still has their own rulings based on how people in the country think, post boxes, police phone boxes and red phone boxes being a good example of british centric ones. I actually suggested that there should be a group thay write country centric ones, volunteers from these forums, but it didnt gain any traction ... might recommend it again