There are plenty of people in the pogo community who have been visiting the new gyms towards getting the gold badges, so if any of them now disappear, are going to be upset. If this was the decision by Niantic, then it should have been made immediately after they appeared, not after they have been out for this long
Grande niantic, vamos a joder la marrana quitando algo que literal no podía quejarse ni un solo jugador de este juego..........
Luego esta la parte de que el sistema de paradas y gyms no enseñáis a la gente a como pedir cosas adecuadamente para que salgan y ves pueblos con 4 peticiones en la misma celda y solo sacan 1 parada o cosas así, que podíais quitar las celdas pequeñas y dejar solo las grandes para los gyms y que este juego den ganas de verdad de salir a jugar, pero es obvio que en la vida reconoceréis que hacéis las cosas mal y empezareis a escuchar a la comunidad y coger las ideas buenas que mejorarían el juego, solo si veis peligrar el dinero decidís hacer un mínimo de hacer caso, ojala cerrase el juego.....
Well that would depend what your primary motivation would be to raid that gym. If it was xp or the pokemon yeah then sure nothing to refund. But if it mostly or even solely for the purpose of getting the gym badge to gold then your efforts ended up being in vain. Furthermore you are now stuck with a badge you cant ever get to gold, and only way to remove it is for you to get it to fall off your list of 1000 which isnt very easy to do since you have to basically spin all your older badges and then get a new one to replace the badge of the gym that no longer exists. A lengthy process. Which is why people are frustrated. That and the loss of resources.
Overall the gym badge system needs some love. A medal showing the number of gold gyms, and the ability to either drop a badge or display all your badges.
Sad! I didn't get any extra stops/gyms in my area, but it still is a bummer they've decided to remove the few extra ones some people got from the error last week.
I feel like if it's in and not in an ineligible spot or anything, it's in, so throw some people a bone aha. But that's just me...
I was certain this was a bug from the get go, so I'm not too fussed by this for the most part, though it is a shame to lose out on a couple of new gyms, and I'll also be sad to see a wayspot that I submitted but that was moved during review (thank you dodgy Google car pictures) disappear back into the Ingress ether.
I get that the rules are the rules, but at the same time, this wasn't really hurting anyone, and if anything, Niantic have likely profited from it due to extra raid passes used on the new gyms.
My main concern is that, given the fact we've seen a lot of bugs with the Wayfarer and wayspot system as a whole lately, how can we be sure that this fix won't actually end up messing things up even more? If other wayspots vanish that were not affected by this bug, will Niantic be willing to fix those as well?
Personally I'd rather the syncing issues with both Ingress and Pokémon Go had been prioritised first. A few unintended Gyms and Pokéstops seems like a minor issue in comparison.
Did answer this already but now that post disappeared.
That would depend why you raided the gyms. If your motivation was the pokemons or the xp sure then no refund is necessary. If it was mainly or only for getting a new gold badge then it changes things abit right.
So now with the gyms removed your resources were wasted. Not only that but you are now stuck with a badge you cant ever finish. Stuck because the only way to get it off your list is to spin all your older gyms and then get new ones to replace it. A laborous process since there is no way to "drop" a badge. If you understand how time consuming this process is you could perhaps understand the frustration.
Overall I feel that when there are complaints towards Niantic there is always a faction who doesnt happen to care about that particular issue who are calling the people affected "whiners" just because the issue isnt important to them or they just dont get it. And instead of steelmanning the opinion of the complainers they do the opposite and in a sense help defendNiantic from errors they made.
Anyways gonna stop wasting my time here since it is just that, wasting my time. Did enough of that already this week.
Overall the badge system could use some love, a medal showing the amount of gold gyms, and a way to edit your badge list or just expanding it past 1000.
If that new gym I went to dide disappear, I think it's probably going to actually motivate me into getting the natural 3 gyms back in that cell. Still not sure where I'll find the other nominations, but they'll be happening.
I can't have a badge I'm not able to get to gold there, even if my quest of getting gold in all gyms in that town is basically not been happening since I got the ability to actually nominate.
While most game companies that have a bug that players like make them features (like Combos on Fighting games), Niantic chooses to remove them ASAP, not giving a **** about what players think... GOOD. JOB.
Somehow, the Pokémon go and Ingress map has been messed up more since it was “fixed”. Is there a way to report the stops/gyms/portals that don’t follow the algorithm and/or have failed to load in one game or the other? Thanks in advance.
This is where I’d like to point out that the inclusion rules (at least in PoGo, but honestly Ingress as well) are too restrictive. Rather than take away something that is honestly a quality of life improvement, you guys should really be focusing on the sync issues. A higher density of pokestops / gyms / ingress portals doesn’t break either game. If anything it’s more incentive for people to get out there...literally the whole point of the games.
I’ve yet to come across an area where I couldn’t see well enough to figure out what I’m doing. There’d have to be an insane amount of portals to reach that point. Long as portals aren’t within 10-20 meters of each other, there’s plenty of visibility.
Well Niantic lost a power-nominator and power reviewer here.. I’m done helping them grow their system when all they do is mess us up.. all the game breaking bugs are still in the game, yet when we get something in our benefit, it immediately gets fixed. People lose many dollars on losing raid passes due raid bugs everyday. How does this have priority..
All the -ING players that are applauding this kind of desicion from niantic? did you lose money or something? were you affected by the new gyms/pokestops while playing ingress? if there is more pokestops in pogo you shouldnt care at all because you dont play it right? and if you do then it would feel the same as playing ingress because you will see the same ammount of pois in both games...however you should bow to that game because thanks to it we have ingress
Imagine if all the pogo players decide to not even review or send nominations anymore...niantic should stop poking the bear after the so called #hearusniantic
Niantic you should fix real bugs this fast...that would be more helpful and welcoming
@NianticTintino-ING@NianticDanbocat now did you see why us, experienced players, already warned you that 40 nominations in a day and/or unlimited test attempts have some bad side effects? Did you see these players have their visions and missions that are the opposite of Niantic's?
You guys also said that you don't want these people will turn away from Wayfarer, but now look at the reality. I don't say I'm with these people, but I can say after the change will be implemented globally these people will not only turned away from Wayfarer but also every Niantic games. Is that the company want, considering you won't punish spoofers and/or multiaccounters seriously in GO due to their money?
@NianticGiffard you may close this thread for further comments, but please at least give some win-win solutions that benefits everyone, GO and Ingress players, and Niantic itself.
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It's not great news. You also applaud very strange things. Also, not a good job.
Three things there to reflect upon.
There are plenty of people in the pogo community who have been visiting the new gyms towards getting the gold badges, so if any of them now disappear, are going to be upset. If this was the decision by Niantic, then it should have been made immediately after they appeared, not after they have been out for this long
Grande niantic, vamos a joder la marrana quitando algo que literal no podía quejarse ni un solo jugador de este juego..........
Luego esta la parte de que el sistema de paradas y gyms no enseñáis a la gente a como pedir cosas adecuadamente para que salgan y ves pueblos con 4 peticiones en la misma celda y solo sacan 1 parada o cosas así, que podíais quitar las celdas pequeñas y dejar solo las grandes para los gyms y que este juego den ganas de verdad de salir a jugar, pero es obvio que en la vida reconoceréis que hacéis las cosas mal y empezareis a escuchar a la comunidad y coger las ideas buenas que mejorarían el juego, solo si veis peligrar el dinero decidís hacer un mínimo de hacer caso, ojala cerrase el juego.....
Well that would depend what your primary motivation would be to raid that gym. If it was xp or the pokemon yeah then sure nothing to refund. But if it mostly or even solely for the purpose of getting the gym badge to gold then your efforts ended up being in vain. Furthermore you are now stuck with a badge you cant ever get to gold, and only way to remove it is for you to get it to fall off your list of 1000 which isnt very easy to do since you have to basically spin all your older badges and then get a new one to replace the badge of the gym that no longer exists. A lengthy process. Which is why people are frustrated. That and the loss of resources.
Overall the gym badge system needs some love. A medal showing the number of gold gyms, and the ability to either drop a badge or display all your badges.
Is it correct to give the name of the applicant who wants to remain anonymous?
Sad! I didn't get any extra stops/gyms in my area, but it still is a bummer they've decided to remove the few extra ones some people got from the error last week.
I feel like if it's in and not in an ineligible spot or anything, it's in, so throw some people a bone aha. But that's just me...
I was certain this was a bug from the get go, so I'm not too fussed by this for the most part, though it is a shame to lose out on a couple of new gyms, and I'll also be sad to see a wayspot that I submitted but that was moved during review (thank you dodgy Google car pictures) disappear back into the Ingress ether.
I get that the rules are the rules, but at the same time, this wasn't really hurting anyone, and if anything, Niantic have likely profited from it due to extra raid passes used on the new gyms.
My main concern is that, given the fact we've seen a lot of bugs with the Wayfarer and wayspot system as a whole lately, how can we be sure that this fix won't actually end up messing things up even more? If other wayspots vanish that were not affected by this bug, will Niantic be willing to fix those as well?
Personally I'd rather the syncing issues with both Ingress and Pokémon Go had been prioritised first. A few unintended Gyms and Pokéstops seems like a minor issue in comparison.
Did answer this already but now that post disappeared.
That would depend why you raided the gyms. If your motivation was the pokemons or the xp sure then no refund is necessary. If it was mainly or only for getting a new gold badge then it changes things abit right.
So now with the gyms removed your resources were wasted. Not only that but you are now stuck with a badge you cant ever finish. Stuck because the only way to get it off your list is to spin all your older gyms and then get new ones to replace it. A laborous process since there is no way to "drop" a badge. If you understand how time consuming this process is you could perhaps understand the frustration.
Overall I feel that when there are complaints towards Niantic there is always a faction who doesnt happen to care about that particular issue who are calling the people affected "whiners" just because the issue isnt important to them or they just dont get it. And instead of steelmanning the opinion of the complainers they do the opposite and in a sense help defendNiantic from errors they made.
Anyways gonna stop wasting my time here since it is just that, wasting my time. Did enough of that already this week.
Overall the badge system could use some love, a medal showing the amount of gold gyms, and a way to edit your badge list or just expanding it past 1000.
If that new gym I went to dide disappear, I think it's probably going to actually motivate me into getting the natural 3 gyms back in that cell. Still not sure where I'll find the other nominations, but they'll be happening.
I can't have a badge I'm not able to get to gold there, even if my quest of getting gold in all gyms in that town is basically not been happening since I got the ability to actually nominate.
@NianticTintino-ING,
Will Niantic consider a global rebalance to deal with Pokestops and gyms that were cheated into the system pre-April 2020?
While most game companies that have a bug that players like make them features (like Combos on Fighting games), Niantic chooses to remove them ASAP, not giving a **** about what players think... GOOD. JOB.
Somehow, the Pokémon go and Ingress map has been messed up more since it was “fixed”. Is there a way to report the stops/gyms/portals that don’t follow the algorithm and/or have failed to load in one game or the other? Thanks in advance.
Great news! Thanks to clean my city from low-quality outdated nonexistent portals.
p.s.
Portals to delete mean imported from 4square portals, right?
First time?
You guys don't publish the rules and always hide and fix them. I haven't presented any rules this time either. This correspondence may also be a bug.
This is where I’d like to point out that the inclusion rules (at least in PoGo, but honestly Ingress as well) are too restrictive. Rather than take away something that is honestly a quality of life improvement, you guys should really be focusing on the sync issues. A higher density of pokestops / gyms / ingress portals doesn’t break either game. If anything it’s more incentive for people to get out there...literally the whole point of the games.
I like to see what I am fielding.
I’ve yet to come across an area where I couldn’t see well enough to figure out what I’m doing. There’d have to be an insane amount of portals to reach that point. Long as portals aren’t within 10-20 meters of each other, there’s plenty of visibility.
Well Niantic lost a power-nominator and power reviewer here.. I’m done helping them grow their system when all they do is mess us up.. all the game breaking bugs are still in the game, yet when we get something in our benefit, it immediately gets fixed. People lose many dollars on losing raid passes due raid bugs everyday. How does this have priority..
All the -ING players that are applauding this kind of desicion from niantic? did you lose money or something? were you affected by the new gyms/pokestops while playing ingress? if there is more pokestops in pogo you shouldnt care at all because you dont play it right? and if you do then it would feel the same as playing ingress because you will see the same ammount of pois in both games...however you should bow to that game because thanks to it we have ingress
Imagine if all the pogo players decide to not even review or send nominations anymore...niantic should stop poking the bear after the so called #hearusniantic
Niantic you should fix real bugs this fast...that would be more helpful and welcoming
@NianticTintino-ING @NianticDanbocat now did you see why us, experienced players, already warned you that 40 nominations in a day and/or unlimited test attempts have some bad side effects? Did you see these players have their visions and missions that are the opposite of Niantic's?
You guys also said that you don't want these people will turn away from Wayfarer, but now look at the reality. I don't say I'm with these people, but I can say after the change will be implemented globally these people will not only turned away from Wayfarer but also every Niantic games. Is that the company want, considering you won't punish spoofers and/or multiaccounters seriously in GO due to their money?
@NianticGiffard you may close this thread for further comments, but please at least give some win-win solutions that benefits everyone, GO and Ingress players, and Niantic itself.