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Wayfarer effectively dead due to mass & random invalid rejection reasons
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Same with me. I was near Mittenwald 2 weeks ago and discovered a nice nature-discovery-trail with informationboards alongside the way. even with 25 km range in Ingress i have to travel 15-20 km to be able to submit again. i tried each of the boards 2 times. until now i managed to get one approved. the others wer rejected for "no safe pedestrian acces" (at a hiking trail?), title or description are "inapropriate", or (in the middle of a forest hiking trail) it would block emergency services.... the little fun that was left submitting, is really coming to an end. and I am really submitting a lot. and help other me mbers of my local community to submit good wayspots for more than 2 years. contributin (directly and indirectly) more than 200 ne wayspots.
Same problem. Dozens of rejections of valid nominations in the last week. All in South of Germany.
Checking in from Tübingen and for a buddy in Bad Buchau (both located in the previously discussed cells in southern Germany) , we were both getting loads of weird rejections two weeks ago and another batch yesterday and today (December 3dr and 4th) each time around twenty nominations. It's kinda getting old.
Hmm, my post from 10 hours ago still doesn't show up. In any case:
I mentioned that I noticed batch rejections as well, while looking at the "hello" mails from Niantic, with unupgraded submissions reaching a decision in mere hours after going into voting.
The first batch of rejections came in on November 22th. Then, over the week I had a few rejected, but not more than one each day.
The next batch came in on November 27th. Then on November 28th. Then a just a few on the 29th. After that, the whole week it took a breather with not a single rejection until December 3rd, where everything I'v nominated under the week has been rejected again within a few hours in voting. Today, on the 4th, just two of them got rejected for "reject.reason.description.short" and "reject.reason.not_found.short"
From my personal observation it looks like the amount increases near the weekend, but that's just my data. Can anybody else confirm that it's the case for them as well?
I've noticed something interesting as well. Yesterday morning, I had six nominations rejected for more or less bogus reasons again in a short timeframe.
The night before, when I went to bed, I checked my Wayfarer nomination page and three of them were in voting at that point. Granted, there is some delay until that page updates, but it's still strikes me as odd that the others got resolved within a few hours. Especially since none of them have been upgraded.
Also, it seems those rejections are coming in waves, which caught my attention before.
Dear @NianticDanbocat @NianticAaron @NianticTintino
please check this too.
Yesterday my Upgrade was on this. I got reject on 12 o clock.
https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=50.039623,8.219811&z=18 on intel we see it..
https://www.google.com/maps/@50.0397887,8.2202714,3a,75y,113.03h,90t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipPU0rFBgHwgBpjKEZWQegS5M7XC183VPgSYxkUc!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipPU0rFBgHwgBpjKEZWQegS5M7XC183VPgSYxkUc%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya37.50316-ro-0-fo100!7i11264!8i5632 - google Sphäre.
And here my environmental image.
Could you please check. maybe review again.
In Pokemon GO i have to travel 15-20 km to be able to submit again.
Sorry but a A playground that is 100% recognizable and rejected, you just bang your head.
Yes, I can confirm that. Most of the rejections always came on Fridays or Saturdays.
Wenn du diese blöde Floskel "für jung und alt" rauslässt, wärs noch besser... Grundsätzlich ist das aber ein Kandidat, der normal ohne Probleme durchgeht.
So the rejections only came on those two days? What happened with the other days?
Did other nominations still not reaching the decision during Sundays thru Thursdays, or was there any nominations that went accepted during those days?
No, the rejections also come on the other days, but more often just before the weekend.
And to be honest, it would be nice if something happened or if you get some information. I haven't been able to submit anything for about 14 days. I would like to get my candidates through without any stupid reasons for rejection.
yes i think it is about time @NianticDanbocat @NianticGiffard @NianticTintino would make a statement. I am certainly not the only one that does not submit since a while.
We would be able to submit again!
After at least starting to evaluate again, I noticed that there are currently a lot of suggestions coming from Munich or the immediate vicinity. 95% of these suggestions are invalid or duplicates. Maybe it will help you find the problem.
While I'm not immediately affected by this all the time because I'm in western Germany and so are most of my submissions, this basically killed my upgrade today due to the extended reviewing range. It's really outrageous that such a cabal and conspiracy can even exist here - or maybe even a bot network or a severe flaw in the system, I don't know. I kinda expected the outcome for other reasons, but most rejection criteria are shocking. Let's just take a look (submission in Wayfarer first, rejection mail second):
Somebody clearly wants to watch Wayfarer burn and is quite successful at this at the moment. There is some strong indication that this is the "work" of a troll group, which seems to be well aware of certain shortcomings of the system, including some forum topics here. Assuming it's true:
Niantic, please just fix it already! You have the data and it hurts your business after all. These people deserve to be severely punished, as in get booted from Wayfarer for more than 15 minutes. I want to s...it on their faces actually. At least I can provide an example for the purpose of this thread.
Here in Winterthur and the immediate vicinity, exactly the same problem. After submitting a waypoint, it usually takes less than 48 hours (usually without upgrade about 1 year) until the rejection. All with the reason: access for pedestrians or location not found. EVERY one of these wayppints is visible on maps, every one is clearly visible on the environment image, every one is publicly accessible....
Do something about these bots if you want to fill your databases....
@NianticGiffard @NianticTintino @Danbocat-PGO
This is still affecting the region. Good nominations are rejected in large numbers. There is a group of reviewers with malicous intentions which is destroying the wayfarer experience in that region. There needs to be done something quickly or you could loose a lot of active wayfarers
I'm running another test proposal right now. Let's see if it has changed something with the Wayfarer Release 4.4. Or do others still have the same problems?
This might be related to the mass rejection or not, so here's an AMA discussion about (unproven) theory of Wayfarer rating:
So if the theory is proven true, then these reviewers probably reject everything in order to keep their rating as low as possible—so their review area are bounded to their area (1 L6 cell and 8 surrounding L6 cells), increasing their chances to review their own nominations.
Again, if it is proven true.
If you reject everything, you will have a good rating. The Cast majority of nominations are garbage.
If you want to drop your rating, you have to approve everything
I think this is something that is happening in other places on smaller scales as well, I I’ve noticed that unless it is a perfect 5* across the board in my area it won’t get accepted. If it is anything less than 4* it gets rejected for very questionable reasons. For now I’ve stopped submitting, focusing on reviewing for upgrades and seeing how to effectively word appeals. What I’m hoping happens is that the appeals process allows niantic to pinpoint individuals who need help understanding the review process so that the community becomes more friendly and better submissions and reviewing practices become the norm.
Did anything came of it by now?
My own submitted spots are still in voting since 4 or 5 days and even a new submission that I upgraded three days ago is still in queue.
So either the false rejection wave stopped or I didn't get hit by it lately.
Anybody else here to confirm or add their information?
I still owe you the result. Now if something has changed, only Niantic can answer us. My proposal, which felt rejected 10 times, was accepted this time. What was different, it took a few days until he went to the voting and when he was then in the voting it was not rejected after 4 hours but it took 2 or 3 days until it was accepted. All of this without an upgrade.
Either it was a coincidence or these tiresome reasons for rejection stopped. I submitted 2 more candidates. One is already in the voting, although I cannot say when he went to the voting and the other is still in the queue.
This coincides with what I experienced.
The submitted spots were in voting for a few days and then reached a decision. Luckily, a few of them were accepted at last, others, which were rejected this time at least had proper rejection reasons and not just those bogus claims.
Whatever it was, it came to a halt (for now). Maybe we were just lucky and others are still having trouble? Needs confirmation from more of the affected users.
So my second proposal has also been accepted. Behaviorally, it was the same as the first suggestion. The voting went on normally again.
Now I would be interested if others from the region can confirm that.
@Danbocat-PGO @NianticGiffard @NianticTintino-ING
Any news about this?
still getting about 3/5 nominations randomly rejected for "private property or farm" makes me unmotivated to even nominate things
Yep. I am having the same problem here. These are eligible nominations for sure but (I have already try to change photos, title, description ,etc. No sucess) they are still being rejected by the reviewers. Over and over again.
Hopefully they are going to take a look into this issue since the holidays are effectively over
These are not from affected area (Southern Germany). Please create your own thread in Nomination Improvement or just resubmit them.
affected area can vary a lot because upgraded nominations go out to further ranges. I'm about 1000 km from germany in a straight line but i've been hit with quite a bit of this problem as well, especially on upgraded nominations.
I' ve contributed with 249 new wayspots in my city, 7 neighbourhoods went from 0 to 4 poketops and 2 gyms and even more in other areas. I've been Systematically submitting every 14 days all year in 4 accounts and reviewing over 8000 proposals. Travelled to far areas from work or home just to give fellow players the chance to a nearby wayspot. @NianticTintino over the last 3 months obvious proposals are rejected. And voting is not moving.
I just feel like quitting. Quitting on reviewing and submitting. Wayfarer just gave 2 steps back.