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Has anyone notice the same stuff coming threw? I rejected a few that Does not meet eligibility criteria and yet I see them the very next day. I only have one account so There is no confusion with that. I notice others saying the same. I also notice the hit you on cool time after 45 min to a hour. I did 15 photos in a row and those are quick and easy and got told I could not do anymore. I find that pointless as 75% of what comes in is fake. If it is not fake the photo is sideways, blur, cars/body seen, screenshots of Pokémon, ETC. The rest are on or in apartments, homes and other living areas. Besides duplicates the rest are photos taken in one spot and marked in another (mostly yards by homes). By the time you get threw all those, You get a few real ones before they tell you to cool down. Then you see most of them again.
That’s due to people being given 40 nominations and nominating the same thing 40 times to try and brute force it through.
one appeal each day, queue might be huge already
Unfortunately I have so many incorrect rejections that I am also still adding stuff to the queue daily😭
Sometimes though I find i do need to vote force things through because some reviewers arent uo to date, or don't know the criteria fully, or are just in a bad mood thayvday. Like it took me 4 attempts to get a grade b listed building through, and I get mixed results with health walk markers in my local park (which were put up to encourage exercise and socialising as they are also used for walking groups pre pandemic)
I’m on about 5 rejections for a trail plaque, but haven’t thought of resubmitting it whilst it’s still in the queue. Is that going to become normal practice now?
they should clear the backlog and start over and limit the submission appeal to 1 / month or something ?
The act of submitting the same nomination consecutively is spam.
This is especially problematic now that nominations can be withdrawn or modified.
And these actions by malicious nominators can seriously discourage good reviewers from reviewing.
I think Niantic should make an announcement to clearly prohibit such spammy behavior.
Yet you admitted yourself for rejecting nominations not in English.
But Niantic always said that if you disagree with the community decision and you think your nomination is valid, you can resubmit it (with the option of trying to improve on what you did last time).
I do agree that spamming garbage should be discouraged, but there are lots of good nominations that do get rejected multiple times for various reasons and, whilst we are now able to appeal these, that wasn't always the case.
If an improved nomination is submitted in moderation after the nomination has been rejected, I would not criticize it.
However, some low-quality players submit the same nominations consecutively using multi-accounts which is cheating.
There is a sort of proverb for players like them, and in Japan they call it "reviewer gacha".
I don't understand it at all, because it's an act of mocking reviewers, but the idea is that they just happen to hit a tough reviewer, and if they submit many times, they will eventually hit a kinder reviewer and get approved.
The only kind reviewer here is a low-quality reviewer.
And this world is becoming a pile of garbage. If we don't clean up the trash, it will multiply like cell division.
I've had stuff be rejected for being not historical or cultural and that's it. I just resubmit the exact same thing again, is that spam? Or is it that I fell foul of bad reviewers and decided to just resubmit and hope for better reviewers?
@Gazzas89-PGO Maybe. (Niantic's decision.) Why wouldn't you tweak the Supporting Info, to show how it's culturally or historically relevant?
I dont see the need to as usually, my supporting info says why it's good. I remember one ti e it was a muga that got rejected for that, and I had said it encourages exercise, socialising, teamwork and competition, pretty sure socialising covers cultural. It passed the second time
Since I don't know what kind of title or description the candidate you submitted gave, I can't guess why it was rejected.
However, I have also had a community center denied for a private residence. However, I have had a community center rejected for a private residence, and after carefully examining the recommendation, I thought that the photography was not good enough, so I re-nominated it.
There is no problem in reviewing and recommending the content in this way.
It is also fine to submit it again after reviewing it and deciding that there is no problem. If you are rejected there as well, you would normally think that there is a problem with the content.
But, there are times when I see nominations where I can guess that the same candidate has been submitted dozens of times in a row before the review results come out.
This is spam before the quality of the nomination.
Therefore, I think there should be some measures to prevent abuse.
Personally, I think that the approval rate (number of approvals/number of nominations) can be used as a preventive measure and as a guide to better quality nominations. I'm thinking about it.
Still waiting, Niantic.
Never see action from Wayfarer on Appeal. Wait for couple months
Voting system = depending on area...abused/not working/working enough to increase POI but quality questionable
Appeals system = not working
40 nominations = not used as intended because of failures of voting system and appeals system
If people are having to resubmit 5+ times to get a perfectly fine POI accepted there is something fundamentally wrong. If you then make an appeals system but don't process them in not surprised people use 5 of their submissions on duplicating a single submission in one go to try and get the right reviewers to make the system work how it should.
Ultimately though this increases the workload for everyone and the time involved for submitters, reviewers, niantic staff answering related queries in forums etc not to mention silly stuff like increased data usage for some cell users on low plans, more storage and processing needed on niantic servers etc. No on wins, everyone suffers including the growth rate and coverage of sparse areas in Niantics POI database.
So this all needs fixing at the root rather the band-aid of more submissions and an appeal button that's overworked because so much has to be appealed
This comment was duplicate of https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/discussion/28278/give-wayfarer-ambassadors-a-voluntary-possibility-to-review-nomination-appeals
Update on Appeals tomorrow.
Awesome, let's see if it is combined with announcing the wayfarer ambassadors.
Well, if the do have a batch of appeals processed and they are going to tell us all about it, it would be good to see some data on the outcomes - e.g xxxx Appeals processed, y % accepted and appeal sucessful, z % - original community rejection decision upheld. We have all seen nominations posted in here where the OP was utterly convinced that it was a 5* shoe in, only for the forum posts to give a comprehensive "no", but I do get the impression a=that a lot of people seem to thing everything appealed will end up being accepted. Then again, the inhouse Niantic review team have not had a stellar record either, so maybe everything will get through.....
Whatever happens there will be arguments and "appeals" in here over "incorrect appeal results". One thing Niantic could and should do with at least some of the refused appeals is to post them in here as examples of "why" this appeal was not accepted, along with the reasons behind it. That would be some useful education for the whole community.
The question is are they posting the update here or on Twitter 🤔
I guess I was right to pick January/February, given the news we've had from Danbocat :)
I hope some info is being logged as to what areas/users are getting many appeals overturned so that info can be used to spot problems and abuse which can be used to improve the system/restrict abusers.
I suspect some of us deserve badges for how many appeals will be overturned...
In a similar vein, I hope those who have Appealed garbage nominations are informed as to why it’s garbage in the email from Niantic, and perhaps have submission restricted if they continue to submit/appeal terrible things that don’t meet criteria