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Reviewer rating dropped for no good reason

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  • MrPhoogee-INGMrPhoogee-ING Posts: 5 ✭✭

    I'm done reviewing, went red after nearly 2 years green, I retook the test and passed, I went from Amber back to red in a matter of a dozen reviews so that's me done with it, I do think it would be helpful to get an email if you go red to let you know the reason for the drop, just a thought.

  • jontebula-INGjontebula-ING Posts: 99 ✭✭✭

    I feel it is bug now in Wayfarer. Only we can do are wait for Wayfarer team get aswere what happen.

  • Sugarstarzkill-PGOSugarstarzkill-PGO Posts: 437 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2020

    I do have an Ingress account. Not a very good one, but I do have one lol I think I'm a whopping level 2 :) Made it largely to get access to the IITC map. I actually tried playing for awhile but there isn't really anyone playing in my area, unfortunately.

    I am still in green. I haven't reviewed a ton, probably another 50 since my last post.


    Edited to add: Tested something just in case. Wondered if I needed to log in to Ingress to trigger whatever is going on (hadn't logged in for about 2 weeks). Still green so far. Hm. 🤔

  • grendelwulf-INGgrendelwulf-ING Posts: 301 ✭✭✭✭

    Recon count doesn't affect wayfarer. Wayfarer sends one agreement to your profile, ingress tabulates it twice.

  • HINABITAMEU-INGHINABITAMEU-ING Posts: 154 ✭✭✭

    110K+ reviews, about 55% agreements, never fell yellow.

    but I've heard a lot about this phenomenon around

  • Agent1337-INGAgent1337-ING Posts: 13 ✭✭

    @NianticCasey-ING any progress on this issue?

  • SilverMeraxes-PGOSilverMeraxes-PGO Posts: 1 ✭✭
    edited May 2020

    I have run into this issue. I have talked to others in my community and they have experienced a red drop as well. This has crippled our ability and desire to review. Has this been acknowledged yet? Are there plans to reset our scores? Should everyone stop reviewing for the time being? Is it worth it to take the reset test or will I just run into the same problem again? @NianticCasey-ING please advise.

  • Mormegil71-INGMormegil71-ING Posts: 202 ✭✭✭

    I know I have stopped reviewing for time being, so have many others with me. The reviewing speed locally/regionally is maybe 10% of what it once was.

  • ROCKETEK16-INGROCKETEK16-ING Posts: 34 ✭✭
    edited May 2020

    In my experience (and dozens of others in the local community), taking the reset test is useless for the long term. Sure, it resets your reviewer rating to Yellow, but afer about 10 reviews you are back to Red again. No matter how long you stop reviewing (and wait for the initial 10 reviews to get processed by other peers), you will stay in Red.

    Result: no new Wayspots have been approved in the area for over 4 weeks now, despite the abundance of suitable candidates (e.g. chruches, monuments, etc).

    Meanwhile I see some clearly inappropriate Wayspots passing the reviews in other areas. Some person's left shoe... Really? Come on... (Note: this is the only new Wayspot in that area, but Playgrounds and Museum locations are not accepted.)

  • DaleTheWolfdog-PGODaleTheWolfdog-PGO Posts: 31 ✭✭

    This is taking too long as everyone is saying here. Month ago I started to review those stuff. And what? After about 100 reviews my rate dropped to red, without getting out from it. I'm not going to take a test again, cause as people saying higher, it didn't helped for them. I'm having 79-81% agreement and I'm still red? I know people that have thousands of reviews, and they immediatly dropped from green to red. Tho I saw that community of reviewing (specially in Poland) started to not accept practicly everything that is 100% good thing for new POI. I nominated 5 murals, each one has been not accepted for "sesonal" even after if it's for like 8 years here...



  • PhilClane-INGPhilClane-ING Posts: 31 ✭✭

    Citing from here: https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/discussion/2307/resources-for-new-reviewers#latest

    Here are a few tips to ensure your Performance Rating stays Green:

    Avoid using third party tools/plugins or depending on others to decide on how you vote on a nomination. 


  • PhilClane-INGPhilClane-ING Posts: 31 ✭✭

    Yeah, I was referring to the post above mine, should have quoted it :)

    Anyways, I'm getting agreements for my Recon badge and my rating is green. This contradicts the "badge theory"... :/

  • 24601LM-ING24601LM-ING Posts: 54 ✭✭✭

    I'm glad to hear that not everybody is experiencing the bug, but just because it doesn't affect everyone, doesn't mean it's not real. There have been many bugs that only affect particular subsets of the player base. e.g. The Ingress Mission Creator has been broken for all players who have only ever played on Prime (never on Redacted) for months. (That one bugs me almost as much as this one given that I'm the main mission creator in my area.)

    It may not be about the badge; it may be a complete coincidence that the problem started at the exact moment they started "double agreement points". But I'd really really like to hear something concrete from Niantic because I'm very concerned about the possibility that they're not even investigating the issue.

  • Saltedeggfries-INGSaltedeggfries-ING Posts: 25 ✭✭

    Are you NOT using Wayfarer? Cause you have an extra stat that does not appear in Wayfarer.

  • MidnightJolteon-PGOMidnightJolteon-PGO Posts: 9 ✭✭

    That has nothing to do with ratings being in the red, if you were insinuating such baseless claims.

    Anyway, it can't just be limited to Ingress & Recon badge because PoGo players are experiencing it as well - unless of course the backend is tied in that manner - which it could very well be seeing that both game accounts are tied to a single Wayfarer account. So some logic problems and it affects everyone.

    Can they still not detect what's wrong? I guess it helps to have a QA team but why would they when they've not needed it for their actual games.

  • Nadiwereb-PGONadiwereb-PGO Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not have an Ingress account and I dropped to red from green almost instantly at the time this bug started.

  • DaleTheWolfdog-PGODaleTheWolfdog-PGO Posts: 31 ✭✭
    edited May 2020

    I'm using original Wayfarer, but it's a widget, that only calculates your accepted rate and gives you black background color. That is it. First I was using normal version, white one, and still had red one. Then it is not from that, cause it doesn't vote for you and doesn't help you how to vote.

    Tho I'm using this from PGo, played Ingress Prime too, even if it was Redacted. I don't have level in Ingress, but even players without Ingress went immediatly to red.

  • Tamadri-INGTamadri-ING Posts: 17 ✭✭

    I'm on 58% agreement and red - still as anyone here, from green to red - never seen yellow.

  • Dazzz123456-PGODazzz123456-PGO Posts: 301 ✭✭✭

    From What I can tell is that because so many people are now in the red there votes are not contributing on a decision on whether a waypoint is eligible so those who are in the green get dragged down because no agreement has been made yet.

    I'm in the yellow and have been since I noticed the drop. I review much less and have stopped when asked to identify what a nomination is with the 3 choices. This method has seemed to have stopped me dropping into the red I'm hoping.

    The 3 choices thing seems to be when things started to go wrong from what I have noticed (I maybe wrong). selecting a choice that has no relevance as that terminology doesn't translate into different countries. (IE in the UK a football or soccer pitch isnt referred to as an athletic field there are also many other instances like this)

    It's very surprising that niantic isnt sharing more on what the problem is. The whole idea of waypoints is to earn them money in ingress people buy extra beacons etc in pogo lures. You would think that such a money making part of the game would be the first thing to get fix. If people cant review the new income from each new waypoints start to dry up.

  • SakoRUnited-PGOSakoRUnited-PGO Posts: 84 ✭✭✭
  • Rodensteiner-PGORodensteiner-PGO Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @NianticCasey-ING so where is NianticPooyah when we need a specialist? All i can say is that i also did run into red tonight, after beign in yellow and not doing reviews. i did 10, bumped into RED and got a 4-hour-cooldown.

    I already told you some days ago that it is 5 minutes to 12. now it is already 5 minutes after 12. The System obvs is kaputt.

  • DaleTheWolfdog-PGODaleTheWolfdog-PGO Posts: 31 ✭✭

    It shows you only percentage of processed reviews (Accepted/Denied/Duplicates/Other), not what % of agreement. I said there, that I'm having in Excel calculations, that shows me actually % of acceptions of it, and it shows 80%. (1501 Reviewed / 665 Processed (44%) / 467 Accepted (70%) / 132 Rejected (20%) / 25 Duplicates (4%) / 41 Other 6%). 100%-20%=80%) . And there you have acceptation rate.

  • Dimytes-PGODimytes-PGO Posts: 5 ✭✭

    My current rating and I am all red like most others.

    Notice the negative Other Agreements. That happened when I did 400-500 reviews a few weeks ago and got 0 processed and agreed among those. Thus I am now only at 58%.

    That is not theoretical possible even to manage to chose the wrong rating for like 500 times in a row....


    Processed and Agreement3941 (58%)

    Godkända nomineringar 1573

    Avvisade nomineringar 2291

    Duplicerade nomineringar 208

    Other Agreements-131


  • MRimaginarius-PGOMRimaginarius-PGO Posts: 22 ✭✭

    I have my account in red and with a 60% or ratio of acceptance how this can be posible?

  • Mrsimaginarius-PGOMrsimaginarius-PGO Posts: 5 ✭✭

    i have the same problem....

  • MuyAmarillo-PGOMuyAmarillo-PGO Posts: 1 ✭✭

    all we have the same problem?

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