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City newly finished shopping mall get rejected whit seasonal reason really?
Shopping malls are not inherently eligible.
Shopping malls are good nominations... Can't believe people need to be this stiff as to prevent people to play PoGo in a shopping mall ... Smh
There's no uniform bias against stops in a shopping mall. There are likely many valid wayspots within the mall (art, cafes, play areas, etc.). Only the mall itself is being rejected. Try nominating things inside the mall. Make sure they can be found on the map so you don't get location mismatched rejections.
Shopping malls can make good nominations if they meet the acceptance criteria (great place to exercise, to explore, or to be social), and if the submitter properly explains how the mall meets the criteria, providing evidence if needed. Some malls, especially indoor malls, do a good job at meeting the "social" criteria. Malls that are merely buildings with shops in them, where one would drive up, park, visit a shop, and then leave generally do not meet any of the acceptance criteria. This appears to be the latter.
If there are any specific shops in this mall or any other points of interest like public art that meet the acceptance criteria (and don't meet any of the rejection criteria), you are free to submit them individually.
Malls are malls... Do you need more explanation as to what they are?
Wayfarer is not about helping people play PoGo in shopping malls.
It's about exploring and researching your neighbourhood to find great places to explore, exercise or socialise.
It seems that you are the one who doesn't understand the eligibility criteria. Shopping malls are not automatically eligible simply because they exist.
this a shoping mall on its own is a generic building with nothing special about it. how ever there are often spots inside the mall that can be submitted such as works of art, murals , ect..
Despite the accuracy of the statement that malls are not inherently eligible, I do think most reviewers understand that a mall is a major center of neighborhood socialization and exploration, if not exercise as well.
That said, I don’t think this is a well-made nomination.
Your photos sure aren’t helping you; a proper mall nomination would have the name of the mall - be it on a sign, on a wall, in a mosaic in a walkway, wherever - undeniably square in the center of the primary image, where it cannot be missed and there is no question about what it is, and the pin location is EXACTLY where that name is found, with a street view or photosphere in place to remove all doubt. Your image has the tall sign at a harsh angle; the name of the mall is hard to find among all the other signs, and almost impossible to read.
I don’t see your description, but I do see “opened two years ago” in the supplementary, and I suggest to you that a more specific version of that is good information that should be in the description, along with a brief summary of the relevance a mall: “Social and commercial hub of the X area, built in 2020.” (and, I mean… a mall built during lockdown? That’s wild)
I'm going to have to disagree with the general idea that "a mall is a major center of neighborhood socialization and exploration, if not exercise as well." There are different types of malls, and although they are all "buildings/complexes with multiple shops in them" (at least the "malls" we're talking about here), beyond that they differ wildly in ways that are very relevant to the Wayfarer criteria.
I would be inclined to agree that the typical indoor mall, with large common indoor areas, is likely to meet the social criteria, with some good arguments in favor of the exercise criteria. These malls are often the site of people gathering with their friends. They generally have lots of areas to sit and talk and may have food courts, play areas, and designated exercise routes. There are also "open air" malls that, again, have large common areas that can be great for socializing and exercising, and in that regard they are very similar to these indoor malls as far as the Wayfarer criteria are concerned.
The typical str*p mall, on the other hand, has none of the things I listed in the previous paragraph. The only common areas are the parking lot and the sidewalk in front of the stores. While you may go there in a group to visit a particular store, the str*p mall itself is not a particularly good place to "hang out" or exercise. Perhaps a particular restaurant or store in the str*p mall may meet the social, exploration, or exercise criteria, but that doesn't mean that the str*p mall itself meets the criteria.
When I look at the photos in the original post, I just see a str*p mall. If there are large common areas for socializing and exercising somewhere beyond the parking lot, I'm not seeing them.
The size and configuration reads to me like an outdoor mall, not just a shopping center.
So there’s the next hurdle for the nominator to overcome.
And please stop saying needs stops or gyms. Reviewers can see the proximity and density of nearby POIs (portals/stops/gyms, etc) and do not need to be told that. The submission should be about the poi - not the need for more places to play.
A lot of snobbish reviewers... A mall is a good nomination. Great place for exploration, plenty of space for social distancing, a local spot for local people...
Your not helping, that's my point... A mall is part of a neighborhood to be explored.. you realize that right? Not at all places have the louvre
Reading the comments I fell really sad about a lot of reviewers (and this justify most of the problems in the process). How in the hell do you tell that a shopping mall should not be accepted as a POI ?! They meet the ELEGIBLE criteria and the ACCEPTANCE criteria, plus are HIGH QUALITY nominations !!!
You can also see a pattern on which people reject shopping malls.
The more experienced (we ?) they are, the more likely they reject.
Maybe because they have read the criterias in full and details many times, including the AMAs.
So to come back to the topic :
Are a shopping mall a great place to explore like pretend @ikonicgodd8-PGO ? Exploration is going to knew places, places you have never noticed or with historical/cultural significance. NO
Are shopping malls great places to exercise ? Obviously NO
Are shopping malls great places to socialise ? You come here to do shopping, not for a social activities. NO
In shopping malls you can find places to socialise, like cafe or pubs or places to exercise like gym clubs or or places to explore like artistic places, murals, etc..
So you can nominate each of these places ! Let's have many interesting Waypoints instead of just one Waypoint with no eligibility !
many people come to malls to socialize and might also shop while there, maybe this is less common among the wayfarer types on this forum but it's not some rare or secret phenomenon. The nomination must still make an effort to explain how and why a mall is a place to be social but this idea that several folks here have that malls are *strictly for shopping* is out of touch.
Teenagers especially but people of all ages will meet at malls because their communities don't have good alternatives. It's a place to pass the time with friends, walk around and window shop, maybe buy a few things or get some food. Many malls have playgrounds that attract families. The parents get a chance to socialize with other parents, the kids with other kids. Maybe they also shop while they're there.
I agree with you with respect to indoor malls (and the occasional "open air" mall), but that logic doesn't ring true to me for str*p malls in general, which is what the original post in this thread depicts. So I think talking about "malls" in a general way just isn't that helpful.
hard to say for sure based on the images provided and the streetview is from 2019 while it was still under construction. I agree that str ip malls don't often meet the level required for this criteria but it's hard to say for sure if that's what this one is. A lot of the same arguments in this thread came up not long ago in response to an indoor mall in Canada though I think that conversation was on reddit.
In your description, make sure emphaize some of the places there that locals can gather. Those can be coffee shops, local restaurants, gyms, libraries, breweries, comic & game shops, and art galleries just to name a few.