車も通る橋について

JP81SayGo-PGO · March 2020

①説明や補足には特に情報が書かれておらず、画像には橋の銘板があり、歩道がついているだけで許容出来ますか？

②橋の全体像が特徴的な工法を用いたり、その工法で初めて建てられた橋は許容出来ますか？

③自治体の観光ガイドに載る様な歴史的な橋は許容出来ますか？

日本ではこの様な橋について議論されたりしますが、NIAは明確な基準を出してないから好きな様に評価すれば良い。と言うコミュニティもあり困惑しております。

Dice3423-ING · March 2020

Posting translation for others.

(1) There is no information in the explanation or supplement, and the image has a nameplate of the bridge.



② Is it possible to use a construction method in which the entire image of the bridge is characteristic, or is it acceptable for a bridge that was first built using that construction method?



③Is it acceptable to use a historic bridge that appears in a municipal tourist guide?



In Japan, such bridges are discussed, but NIA does not set a clear standard and you can evaluate it as you like. There is also a community saying that I am confused.

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MaxInmelman-PGO · April 2020

こんにちは。Google翻訳で十分なので英語で投稿した方がコメントがつきやすいですよ。

Hello. Google Translate is sufficient, so it is easier to post comments in English.

個人的には①は否認②は説明次第③は承認だと思います。

Personally, I think that ① is rejected ② is explained as soon as ③ is approved.

Gendgi-PGO · April 2020

https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/discussion/221/%E8%BB%8A%E3%82%82%E9%80%9A%E3%82%8B%E6%A9%8B%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6

① There is no information in the explanation or supplement, and the image has a bridge nameplate and is only acceptable with a sidewalk?

I believe that depends. If there is no information supporting the candidate, it is difficult to make a determination that it could be acceptable, even with a sidewalk. Something needs to prove the bridge is culturally, visually, or historically unique.

② Is it possible to use a construction method in which the overall picture of the bridge is distinctive, or is it acceptable for a bridge that was first built using that construction method?

I'm not sure I understand this question. Potentially, a visually unique bridge could be accepted.

③Is it acceptable to have a historic bridge that appears in a municipal tourist guide?

Absolutely! This would be a perfect example, especially if you have sources to back it up. In the United States, we have the widely recognized Golden Gate Bridge. Other regions have iconic "covered bridges" that are tourist destinations as well. All could be eligible, providing they have safe pedestrian access. Similarly, certain signage or information plaques could be accepted, if adequately spaced.

In Japan, such bridges are discussed, but NIA does not set clear standards and you can evaluate it as you like. There is also a community saying that I am confused.

I think you could interpret bridges under unique architecture criteria or historic and cultural to determine eligibility.

JP81SayGo-PGO · April 2020

Thank you for the answers.

I am not good at English and can only speak Japanese, so I am sorry for the inconvenience.

(I am sorry that English is incorrect because it uses Google Translate.)

As a prerequisite

Think of it as a bridge, not a park, but a part of a road on which cars can run.

patsufredo-PGO · April 2020

If the bridge is only acceseible by car, I would think it's not eligible at all.

But as long the bridge has safe pedestrian access and iconic/unique, it would be eligible.

ddm027-ING · April 2020

https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/discussion/comment/7331#Comment_7331

as @patsufredo-PGO said, does it have pedestrian access? is it safe do walk there?

But only for those 2 reasons it doesn't meet criteria, it needs much more than that to be eligible.

Bridges are just structure to help you get from one place to another, it needs some meaning to give proper reason to be submitted.

(I've trying to copy past this comment from English to Japanese, as a not English native as well I know how google translate can be a problem)

JP81SayGo-PGO · April 2020

https://goo.gl/maps/GAtyBM2KxasPkCqP9

For example, a bridge like this

I agree with you. However, in Japan, things like images on the nameplate of the bridge are now approved.

In that case, the viewer may apply even if they do not meet the criteria.

Therefore, the purpose is to discuss in this forum and seek the official NIA views.

Gendgi-PGO · April 2020

https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/discussion/comment/7498#Comment_7498

@NianticCasey-ING could some more clarification be provided?

Based on what I'm seeing, it looks like a generic bridge that seems ineligible, but I don't want to speak to something I am culturally unatuned to.

JP81SayGo-PGO · April 2020

I don't think I'm qualified.

However, in fact, it has recently attracted attention, and there are others similar.

Users who acknowledge this seem to agree that "this is a connection between regions, and without a bridge, it would be inconvenient to take a detour." They say that if there are no clear standards, respect individuals, as they will be approved or rejected depending on the wayfinder's interpretation.

WheelTrekker-ING · April 2020

By that same logic any road should be approved.

People always try to stretch the rules in order to state that their nominations are valid, but that kind of bridge doesn't have anything special. You can check how they made an exception stating that pedestrian bridges can be eligible, but honestly, there are too many bridges and unless it's a bridge know by some other reason (historical, special architecture, ...) a bridge that it's only a bridge is not a Point of Interest.

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