As we edge slowly towards Wayfarer 5.0, what’s the one thing you’d want from it?
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The most recent Release Notes have us at 4.8;
So what’s the one thing you’d want to see on Wayfarer in the next big update of 5.0?
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To be honest expectation is low 🙄
what might I like?
Dear Father Christmas (a bit early)
Perhaps a tab view where I can switch from contributions of POI to edits (ability to sort by location, titles/description, moves) photos.
Can we have better figures to help track our progress? For example the number reviewed that have reached a conclusion. It would nice track if there are still large numbers outstanding or number I rejected but others accepted.
And while we are at it could the wording of “nominations accepted” is far from intuitive, to the point that it confuses.
So what’s on others wish list as this is far from extensive.
A standalone Wayfarer app for all nominations and edits.
I just hope we get the fabled additions to Contributions of all the photo and other edits.
Reviewing:
I'd look at the user scripts that many of us run. They
can'twon't tell us anything about cells, so the user script that lets us see cells won't happen. But the scripts that make reviewing easier are a no brainer.I'm not sure how they would do it, but they have got to try for better usage of rejection reasons. There is a user script that shows what the rejection reason means as you're selecting it. That might be a good place to start.
Contributions:
Withdraw things In Voting or things In Appeal. (Plus all the fixes they've promised already.)
I'd like better filtering in this window. Right now it's a simple checkbox - it would be nice to have some basic operators so I could see Upgraded and Not Accepted. Right now that will show me all things that have been Upgraded and all things that were Not Accepted. I might just want to look at the things I Upgraded but were Not Accepted to get a feeling for what types of nominations the larger reviewing audience doesn't like (or the things I need to improve).
For those of us with a long submission history, it might be nice to be able to hide some submissions. Like if I withdrew submissions and later resubmitted and got them approved, I typically don't want to see the Withdrawn versions of those. If I could check a box to hide them and then have a setting that says "Don't show hidden contributions," that would help my list look cleaner. Those hidden nominations are still there and I can see them any time I want by unchecking the new setting. This could also see be accomplished through a better filtering system described above. But if that's how it was handled, I would then want to apply a default filter that would be persistent to my account and follow me between phone and PC.
We need some baked in translation services. I don't have to worry about this too terribly much but I know the European countries are presented with nominations in foreign languages pretty often. Without the user scripts that make it easy to translate, I don't know how they do it. I would want to skip a lot of them but we can only skip 3 per day.
Home/Bonus Locations:
These features make no sense to me. I don't understand why I can't ever reset my Home location, ever ever ever. And only being able to change my bonus location once per year is cumbersome. I have not done it (except through Challenges) because I don't want to commit to that long of a change. I did set my home location to a place that I kinda think of as home but at some point I might tire of reviewing there.
TBH, my biggest struggle is that I want to get constructive feedback to the people who make either horrible or almost good contributions. I don't think there will ever be a way to do this through WF, but I wish there was some WF Scholar program we could go through that would allow us to get messages through.
"This statue at the fire station is in too risky of a location because there's only one driveway leaving the fire station. Game players can easily be stuck in the driveway trying to leave when an emergency happens. We do not want trucks having to negotiate around players' cars."
"The photo of this nomination is of the mural but the title and description refers to the generic business. Resubmit with the mural as the title and description and this should sail through."
"This mural is eligible but since you did not show it in the supplemental photograph and there's no street view or satellite view of it, I can only assume that you're intentionally placing it in the wrong spot. Please resubmit with proof that it exists in this location. Try using a 360 photosphere if that is your only way to prove it."
As an addition to "what would we like looking forward to 5.0", I also want to add in this thread progress for 2022 so far and gather peoples thoughts.
4.4 into 4.5 - Appeals... well, we know the mess that created, probably divided opinion on them tbh, they were handled really badly to begin with.
4.5 release - Changed text from Nomination to Contribution, I do wonder how much back-end change they worked on for this, because some simple front-end change (as a visual item only), I assume the database was changed slightly to be able to call the new function as opposed to be old, but we'll never known the back-end part.
4.6 release - Removed edit button for subs in voting, we lost the ability to withdraw. Not sure how that "helped" anyone or why that was worked on, fix something that wasn't broken I guess?
4.7 release - Hold function, personally really like it, definitely a step forward and it seemed to go smoothly, didn't really see any complaints, so good job on that Niantic. Redacted subs appearing again, good to see, but kinda silly that we still have Redacted subs in 2022, some of the UK Redacted subs EXIF data shows they were subs from 2014, did Niantic find them in some dusty old corner that they haven't looked at in almost 10yrs? How that is even possible is beyond me.
4.8 release - Personally I liked the new system, I don't have "old" subs in the system, my oldest is like ~1 week old and I don't suffer this "upgrade curse" that many speak of, so it hasn't really impacted me as badly as others, but overall it wasn't well thought out, and even worse on deployment.
Looking ahead, what would I like?
- Ability to withdraw stuff in-voting added back in, again I don't understand why this was removed.
- Ability to see/track edits the same way we have with our normal submissions, ability to see title/description/location/photo edits, ability to change/modify our edits, or withdraw edits (spelling mistakes etc) before they reach voting - This has been coming soon™ for a while now though.
- Fixed 4.8 release so it actually functions as it was supposed to on paper.
- Lightship Map
Being able to see all my pending edits is the big one for me, it's been in the works for a while and would be a big help. Hopefully this will also include removal reports? I suspect there's an email bug lingering with these because most reports I make right now receive a response within days but a handful appear to never get a response. Perhaps they are being rejected but no email is sent?
Instead of an upgrade, give a redeemable token that can be used for an extra appeal or an upgrade, depending on what you want at the time
Well, I wrote a long comment this morning but then immediately edited it to fix a typo and it disappeared. This website is ****.
Remember how we used to be able to view an interactive location map when viewing existing nominations in the Contributions tab, with the ability to see satellite views and photospheres instead of merely a static roadmap? I'd like that back, please. It was a quick, easy way for me to judge how reviewers were likely to rate my submissions for location.
let us see our edits!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This at least is doable with add-ons if you're ok with installing them.
I want up-to-date guidance about criteria to be displayed on the screen during the review process based on the "What is it?" category.
I want this on the submission side as well as the review side.
This is rather minor but it would be nice if after you click on an image you're reviewing to enlarge it you could then click the area around it to minimize it. That's how it used to work but now doing that just opens the image in another tab which is inconvenient.
Unfortunately what I actually expect out of 5.0 is for them to create the problem that 5.1 fixes.
it should never have gotten to "Wayfarer 4.8".
They should have stopped this and redo the whole thing, and relaunch as something else.
Today we would have something like "1.4" of something that is actually working.
Given the latest releases, I'm afraid about requesting any new feature or fix.
Everything above I see as a priority. What I want besides those it's a small thing, the showcase should show the 3 most voted wayspots in the area in the week. Sometimes it is awful stuff, I don't understand. Again it's a small pet peeve I wouldn't put it in an AMA.
Frankly I would ditch showcase.
it was a nice idea in theory - but in practice it is of no use.
I don't know how feasible this is, but I'd like the "check for duplicates" map that we see during reviewing to operate more smoothly. If you're reviewing a wayspot in a dense area, it can take the map a while to load all the other wayspots, and then when they are loaded, the map is very sluggish if you're trying to move it at all. It can also have a knock on effect when scrolling through the rest of the page.
I may be alone in this sentiment, but I LIKE the Showcase despite all its flaws. It's always a treat to see my own nominations featured, or those of my friends! I would love, though, the ability to see Showcases from other review areas much like I can see Scores or even Recent Historical Scores from other cells in Ingress Prime. Since I do tend to make weekend trips to submit outside my review area, I know I've most likely missed some of my own Showcase entries because I only see a single Showcase from my home area.
I’ve never seen a showcase within 50 miles of me, and most of them are unremarkable (generic trail markers, apartment complex playgrounds, baseball backstops), so IMO the showcase offers nothing. It could just as well go away and that would be fine.
All I hope for from 5.0 is a minimum of new bugs. I’m not confident that I’ll get my wish.
Reviewer feedback, so we know where we are "going wrong" If you want standards to improve and to getthe backlog moving, you have to provide reviewer feeback.
Just waiting on 'yes no maybe' reviewing & in-game notifications about joining wayfarer, we need more reviewers.
I'd like to see reviewing of reports for invalid wayspots and duplicates by the wayfarer community as well. Might help to clean the database a lot