Valid wayspot suddenly dissapeared for no clear reason
Dear Niantic,
A few weeks ago, one of the Pokegyms in my hometown suddenly dissapeared and did not came back. Here you can see the empty place in Pogo:
The next day, the Ingressportal also dissapeared. Here you can see the empty place in Ingress:
This really sucks, because it was one of the oldskool gyms in my town. Me and many players in this town did a lot of raids on this one. The gym was called 'Alle Kanten Op In Het Groene Hart nr 45'. We even had a nickname for this gym, the Allicante (Bro, are you joining the raid at the Allicante around 19PM? ). As you can see below, I had a lot of gym point on this gym:
And here is the proof this wayspot is still existing.
Exhibit 1. A photo I made yesterday at the location:
Exhibit 2. Streetview, quite up-to-date, wayspot clearly visible.
So, could you please bring this Gym/Portal back in game? The community was really dissapointed and confused about the dissapearance of this wayspot.
Kind regards,
Hanenbow (PGO & ING)
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Thanks for the appeal, @Hanenbow-PGO! We have taken another look but stand by our decision to retire this Wayspot.
Could you maybe elaborate on why this was removed? I checked everything @Hanenbow-PGO provided and I can't figure out the reason. It's definitely not on PRP or school property, it is perfectly accessible on foot, it doesn't obstruct any emergency services and it looks like it's genuinely there. Did the property owner request it to be removed? If yes, you could spare a lot of frustration and confusion by simply saying so.
Why?! its a very good wayspot that we always used for our raids to meet up, there is a picnic table there as you can see on the pictures, so it was always great fun. Sadly, we didnt have those anymore since, really a shame since niantic is always saying they want people to go outside and meet up and be a community, shame right?
No prp
Safely accessible
Still exsisting
No emergency service around
Strange decision
@NianticVK @NianticGiffard
I appreciate you guys for following up and contesting our decision. We have given it another look and decided to restore the Wayspot instead.
Hi @NianticGiffard , I saw the Ingress portal had returned very fast (I guess the 17th of May).
However, our Oh-so-beloved Pokegym, is still nowhere to be seen..
Do you have any indication how long the process of restoring a gym will take?
pokegym will not rise in that place. it will probably appear elsewhere. today it's a lottery
If you get the Stop back in PoGo it will not come back as a Gym. Looking at the Ingress Intel map the Waypoint is in the same S17 cell as "Stadhuis Klock". No matter how old a Stop or Gym is, if there is a location edit applied to it, or it get gets "removed and returned", the "new" rules on spacing and number of active Stops per S17 are applied. This means that this particular Waypoint will not reappear in PoGo despite showing in Ingress.
If I am looking at the map correctly then there are 7 S17 cells within the larger bounding S14 cell with visible Stops / Gyms. This means this generate 2 Gyms within the S14 cell.
POI "Alle Kanten Op In Het Groene Hart nr 45" was restored in another, REAL place (44 metres to west) and now is in one cell with POI "Stadhuis Klok". Pokegym won't be coming back.
But they've promised to restore the old situation?
And ok.. interesting about those so named 'S17-cells'. Is there any place where Niantic describes those rules? And where can I see/download the grid (so I could see for myself where those cells exactly are)?
enter geographic coordinates for this portal, I will check it
The problem is the wayspot was in the wrong position before it was deleted. Niantic restored the wayspot, but also corrected the position. It is now at the intersection you sent the picture of, not across the bridge. This means it is too close to another stop and won't appear in Pokemon Go.
"Restoring the old situation" means the Stop gets put back into PoGo. At that point the system takes over. For more about cells look on Google, Niantic don't actually officially say how things work regarding cells.