Is someone with noteworthy Twitter follower range in here? Such person should tweet to John Hanke about how poor his multi billion dollar company performs in this case ...
It's somewhere to share how badly things are at Niantic right now and can't be censored.
Posts here critical of ongoing problems still unresolved have started to be censored and deleted. Trying to hide the ongoing issues and lack of communication between staff and ownership of problems, leads to nothing getting fixed. Very head in sand approach. Some fundamental problems at Niantic I think
Das Haus war früher Standort einer Druckerei und der Erfttal-Nachrichten. Heute ist es ein Mehrfamilienhaus im Besitz des Bauvereins
Standort
Carl-Schurz-Straße 91, 50374 Erftstadt, Deutschland
Zusätzliche Informationen
eins von vielen schönen alten Gebäuden entlang der ehemaligen Hauptstraße, beliebt bei Spaziergängern, Weg vom Gesundheitsgarten zur Kirche zum Park Das Haus ist Teil des historischen Ortskerns von Unterliblar, Druckerei und Zeitung prägten lange Zeit den Ort, ihre Nachfolger existieren an anderer Stelle immer noch. Wegmarke und historisch interessant https://www.rheinische-anzeigenblaetter.de/rheinland/c-lokales/erfolgreicher-nachfolger-der-erfttal-nachrichten_a161672 Mehrfamilienhaus, vermietet vom Bauverein, die Carl-Schurz-Str. 87/89 ist insgesamt ein 5-Familienhaus. https://mapio.net/expose/673313/
I've noticed lately, without upgrades some of the stops go through better than with upgrades. I also only make upgrades on it where I am sure that these also go through alone because of this wave of rejection. That is very sad that partly nothing is done, because it so frustrates the evaluators. Even with appeals it takes months until they are rolled up again and evaluated.
So what's happened with the massive rejection abuse now? Seems like nothing has taken yet against those bad Wayspots, while the rejections are still there?
For few days there was a rumor about more and better captchas, but I didn't encounter one, so can't confirm that.
The junk wayspots, that were created this way, are untouched, except for the bus stop sign at the field. All others are still there.
After 1st actions I got a few weak candidates approved (for example a restaurant 1st try). So I had hope, that this problem might be fully solved, but the candidates, that I mentioned here as examples earlier are constantly with stupid rejection reasons rejected ..... Unesco world heritage plaques are worhtless xD
So I guess Nia didnt find the people behind this. There is still a cabal or something. Maybe they lost lots of bot accounts, but it's not fully exterminated.
Everything´s rather shady. Niantic isnt telling us, what happened and what they did. The people/guy behind the whole shenenigans didnt come forward, and most of the contributiors here in germany cannot tell if their experience is continuing to be better.
Forgot to mention: Giffard said, that we can appeal effected submissions via the wayfarer support bot - bot denies all requests. Not a single one had success afaik
Umm why are literally all Portals except one still online? This is a joke. The submitter is probably still laughing after 2/3 months. Every bigger city has like 100+ of those. These road signs are as generic as it can get. I reported them in in app, but for some reason your employees feel like they are valuable for the database. Lol
I'm sorry to say this Giffard, but it's already been 2 months again and we still don't know what happened, if the abuser/abusers have been punished, why literally every Portal (except one - a special case) is still there and you are for some reason doing nothing at all. You told us to use the Wayfarer Help Chat, but they didn't even knew what we were talking about and couldn't help. If you did something, tell us. Since every cheated Portal is still there, I get the impression that you haven't done anything at all. For 4 months the cheated Wayspots are there and the abusers are probably laughing because it only cost them like 150 Euros to get 40+ Homestops. Some of the Wayspots are generic Street Signs. I reported some, but you declined my reports (lol).
We told you exactly where to look, we know exactly the place where the abuse happened, we can give you the Portal Links to every Ineligible Portal that was only created with bought reviewers (Bots) in this city. WHAT IN THE WORLD IS HOLDING YOU BACK??? There was a reason "Better consequences against abusers" was the Top April AMA concern. Because like in this case, abuse is rewarded with inaction or very little consequences.
Weird, right? Some guy posts ~10 rejected nominations, a lot of them seem like they were rejected correctly. Immediate action, reviewers get punished and they probably don't know what they did wrong! We had like a couple thousands wrongly rejected nominations in germany and we can point you to the epicentre of abuse, but hey it's just the germans. I feel like we are ignored. After all, according to an unofficial source, we have the third most Portals in the world. We were also ignored when some of my fellow germans applied for Ambassador. One of the most well known guys in the Forum (who also happen to fight abuse a lot!) didn't get selected.
Hello everyone, I started playing PoGO again after some time and accordingly started submitting pokestops again. In order to get through these stops as quickly as possible, I have of course evaluated stops submitted on Wayfarer in order to "upgrade" my submission. I have submitted two information boards. One on 22.08.2020, which was accepted, the other on 07.05.2022. I also looked to see if there is space from the cells, which is the case. Nevertheless, the second proposal was rejected because it was allegedly inappropriate and temporary. There can't be something right, can it?
Nicht nur im Süden. Überall wird man in Deutschland aktuell nur beschissen und es frustriert nur noch, da man genau weiß, dass man sich seine Arbeit eigentlich sonst wo hinstecken kann, da es genug Trolle gibt die alles zu Nichte machen. Es macht keinen Spaß mehr
@Liediawa-PGO bin ich voll bei dir einfach nur traurig. Ganze Arbeit für die Katz. Werde es nochmal einreichen und gucken was passiert. Wird es nochmal abgelehnt, hör ich mit den Bewertungen und Einreichungen auf.
Such type of community notice boards, that are eligible according to Niantic statements, have no chance in front of the German reviewers. Since the contents of these infoboards are temporary, you'll have a 99.9% chance of a a rejection with "temporary or seasonal display".....
I'm submitting also a lot of these infoboards right now. My supporting statement is usually similar to this:
So there is the proof, that these type of infoboards is eligible, but nethertheless people vote the stupid way, showing that they dont read anything.
So at the moment such community notice boards are my No.1 appeal candidates. Submit them, upgrade them, wait for the rejection, appeal it, wait a few weeks, have a new wayspot.
But Last but not least ..... this has no connection to the bot rejection waves, that are the topic of this thread. This is simply the usual disgusting moron reviewers, that are out there since day 1 ...
Comments
did you get any reply yet? A friend of mine has the same problem. the Support Chat doesnt understand his problem.
Nope, recieved the same c/p message.
@NianticGiffard I Did get the same answer again over and over. Why is it that other people got this:
I only get this over and over again. It seems the "people behind it arent real.
Niantic clearly does not understand how bad the abuse is here...
Is someone with noteworthy Twitter follower range in here? Such person should tweet to John Hanke about how poor his multi billion dollar company performs in this case ...
@Raachermannl-ING I have direct contact with him but I don't think that's going to be an effective resolution path.
Little bit of time now gone ..... and all the abused wayspots are still out there.
Don't you think that this is embarassing?
@NianticTintino @NianticGiffard @NianticDanbocat ?
It's somewhere to share how badly things are at Niantic right now and can't be censored.
Posts here critical of ongoing problems still unresolved have started to be censored and deleted. Trying to hide the ongoing issues and lack of communication between staff and ownership of problems, leads to nothing getting fixed. Very head in sand approach. Some fundamental problems at Niantic I think
It's a shame to see Niantic doesn't care about this at all...
Wappenfenster
Erftstadt NRW
NICHT AKZEPTIERT
2022-02-22
Ablehnungskriterien
Gefälschter Vorschlag
Privates Wohngelände oder Bauernhof
Beschreibung
Das Haus war früher Standort einer Druckerei und der Erfttal-Nachrichten. Heute ist es ein Mehrfamilienhaus im Besitz des Bauvereins
Standort
Carl-Schurz-Straße 91, 50374 Erftstadt, Deutschland
Zusätzliche Informationen
eins von vielen schönen alten Gebäuden entlang der ehemaligen Hauptstraße, beliebt bei Spaziergängern, Weg vom Gesundheitsgarten zur Kirche zum Park Das Haus ist Teil des historischen Ortskerns von Unterliblar, Druckerei und Zeitung prägten lange Zeit den Ort, ihre Nachfolger existieren an anderer Stelle immer noch. Wegmarke und historisch interessant https://www.rheinische-anzeigenblaetter.de/rheinland/c-lokales/erfolgreicher-nachfolger-der-erfttal-nachrichten_a161672 Mehrfamilienhaus, vermietet vom Bauverein, die Carl-Schurz-Str. 87/89 ist insgesamt ein 5-Familienhaus. https://mapio.net/expose/673313/
Ablehnungen regen einen schon immer auf, der Vorwurf gefälschter Vorschlag trifft allerdings besonders hart.
I've noticed lately, without upgrades some of the stops go through better than with upgrades. I also only make upgrades on it where I am sure that these also go through alone because of this wave of rejection. That is very sad that partly nothing is done, because it so frustrates the evaluators. Even with appeals it takes months until they are rolled up again and evaluated.
Hopefully something finally happens here
So what's happened with the massive rejection abuse now? Seems like nothing has taken yet against those bad Wayspots, while the rejections are still there?
The shop-website was removed.
For few days there was a rumor about more and better captchas, but I didn't encounter one, so can't confirm that.
The junk wayspots, that were created this way, are untouched, except for the bus stop sign at the field. All others are still there.
After 1st actions I got a few weak candidates approved (for example a restaurant 1st try). So I had hope, that this problem might be fully solved, but the candidates, that I mentioned here as examples earlier are constantly with stupid rejection reasons rejected ..... Unesco world heritage plaques are worhtless xD
So I guess Nia didnt find the people behind this. There is still a cabal or something. Maybe they lost lots of bot accounts, but it's not fully exterminated.
Everything´s rather shady. Niantic isnt telling us, what happened and what they did. The people/guy behind the whole shenenigans didnt come forward, and most of the contributiors here in germany cannot tell if their experience is continuing to be better.
All in all, this is a shady affair.
Forgot to mention: Giffard said, that we can appeal effected submissions via the wayfarer support bot - bot denies all requests. Not a single one had success afaik
Umm why are literally all Portals except one still online? This is a joke. The submitter is probably still laughing after 2/3 months. Every bigger city has like 100+ of those. These road signs are as generic as it can get. I reported them in in app, but for some reason your employees feel like they are valuable for the database. Lol
All pictures/texts taken from https://www.iamexpat.de/expat-info/driving-germany/road-signs)
I'm sorry to say this Giffard, but it's already been 2 months again and we still don't know what happened, if the abuser/abusers have been punished, why literally every Portal (except one - a special case) is still there and you are for some reason doing nothing at all. You told us to use the Wayfarer Help Chat, but they didn't even knew what we were talking about and couldn't help. If you did something, tell us. Since every cheated Portal is still there, I get the impression that you haven't done anything at all. For 4 months the cheated Wayspots are there and the abusers are probably laughing because it only cost them like 150 Euros to get 40+ Homestops. Some of the Wayspots are generic Street Signs. I reported some, but you declined my reports (lol).
We told you exactly where to look, we know exactly the place where the abuse happened, we can give you the Portal Links to every Ineligible Portal that was only created with bought reviewers (Bots) in this city. WHAT IN THE WORLD IS HOLDING YOU BACK??? There was a reason "Better consequences against abusers" was the Top April AMA concern. Because like in this case, abuse is rewarded with inaction or very little consequences.
Niantic, please teach people how to review nominations — Wayfarer (nianticlabs.com)
Based on Niantic's actions here I would think that they would have no trouble identifying and punishing the abusers en masse.
Weird, right? Some guy posts ~10 rejected nominations, a lot of them seem like they were rejected correctly. Immediate action, reviewers get punished and they probably don't know what they did wrong! We had like a couple thousands wrongly rejected nominations in germany and we can point you to the epicentre of abuse, but hey it's just the germans. I feel like we are ignored. After all, according to an unofficial source, we have the third most Portals in the world. We were also ignored when some of my fellow germans applied for Ambassador. One of the most well known guys in the Forum (who also happen to fight abuse a lot!) didn't get selected.
Seriously?
@NianticVK have a look at the warning message you wrote me, than my answer, and then to cap it all the linked thread 😂
Eine Wegmarkierung im Wald, ein Ding, wie es in den Niederlanden und Belgien hundertfach durchgeht.
Auf dem Umgebungsfoto ist der Weg zu sehen und dass der Pfahl direkt da steht.
Der Link zur Wandertour ist in der Zusatzbeschreibung!
Ich verstehe es nicht...
If Niantic still won't responding to this, remember that the same bots might've been used for fake tiles in the Netherlands:
@NianticGiffard any news to share?
Hello everyone, I started playing PoGO again after some time and accordingly started submitting pokestops again. In order to get through these stops as quickly as possible, I have of course evaluated stops submitted on Wayfarer in order to "upgrade" my submission. I have submitted two information boards. One on 22.08.2020, which was accepted, the other on 07.05.2022. I also looked to see if there is space from the cells, which is the case. Nevertheless, the second proposal was rejected because it was allegedly inappropriate and temporary. There can't be something right, can it?
Based on that photo alone , The second one looks fine and eligible.
Nicht nur im Süden. Überall wird man in Deutschland aktuell nur beschissen und es frustriert nur noch, da man genau weiß, dass man sich seine Arbeit eigentlich sonst wo hinstecken kann, da es genug Trolle gibt die alles zu Nichte machen. Es macht keinen Spaß mehr
@Liediawa-PGO bin ich voll bei dir einfach nur traurig. Ganze Arbeit für die Katz. Werde es nochmal einreichen und gucken was passiert. Wird es nochmal abgelehnt, hör ich mit den Bewertungen und Einreichungen auf.
Such type of community notice boards, that are eligible according to Niantic statements, have no chance in front of the German reviewers. Since the contents of these infoboards are temporary, you'll have a 99.9% chance of a a rejection with "temporary or seasonal display".....
I'm submitting also a lot of these infoboards right now. My supporting statement is usually similar to this:
community notice board of the town government. <insert sentence about the actual contents>. community notice boards are eligible according to different Niantic statements, for example here an successful appeal in the wayfarer forum: https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/discussion/24240/community-noticeboards-ineligible/p1
So there is the proof, that these type of infoboards is eligible, but nethertheless people vote the stupid way, showing that they dont read anything.
So at the moment such community notice boards are my No.1 appeal candidates. Submit them, upgrade them, wait for the rejection, appeal it, wait a few weeks, have a new wayspot.
But Last but not least ..... this has no connection to the bot rejection waves, that are the topic of this thread. This is simply the usual disgusting moron reviewers, that are out there since day 1 ...
So, let's see what will happen. Have submitted the Pokestop again and will upgrade it.
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