Proper Names on Signs
SocksWithCr0cs-PGO
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If the waypoint has a proper name of someone as a "John Doe Memorial" or "In Memory of John Doe" is it approvable or does that have to be rejected
Also, how about with a popular name, "Neymar Mural" or "Mayor Buddy Dyer Statue", can those be approved?
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As long as the name has an obvious reason to be used in the title, that is not a reason to reject the nomination. However, many memorials are simply not eligible unless the person is significant.
Proper titles are preferred when available, but creative titles are also encouraged. Using an unofficial title would not be grounds for rejection, but in an edit the official is preferred.
Folks may encourage creative titles if the official one is "too long" or unclear.
Any of your examples shared sound fine.
Folks may encourage creative titles if the official one is "too long" or unclear.
Title of a Wayspot being too long? I don’t understand?
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Why is" too long" in quotes?
Is it because there is an official Niantic ruling on title length somewhere that I've missed?
There was an approved Wayspot near me that was titled something like "Pavilion for band concerts and get-togethers at festivals" or something like that. Not the greatest title, and I've since edited into something a little punchier. Titles are for titles, and descriptions are for descriptions, in my opinion. Many of the older wayspots (before descriptions became standard practice) are too long and overly descriptive, I think, because the field served a dual purpose.
But yep, I agree - if the proper name is the subject of the waypoint, and that can be verified, they're fine.
"Too long" is subjective. There's no ruling outside of https://niantic.helpshift.com/hc/en/21-wayfarer/faq/2772-title-guidelines/?p=web&s=wayspot-acceptance-criteria. I'm not going to pull examples out of my hat but if a title in some way exceeds the character limit or there are several nearby Wayspots with the first few words identical then it may be appropriate to shorten or change the title.
OP asked if it had to be rejected. Coming from the assumption that they are asking as a reviewer, I don't want to give any kind of impression that an abridged title should be rejected.
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Yes, I was actually talking about having a persons name in the title or description if it is part of the object submitted, such as a tribute to a person, or the person is the artist.
I am a reviewer, and just asking for clarification
Examples I am making up:
John Doe National Park
Trees on Water Mural by John Doe
Lion Statue, by Sculptor John Doe
I'd happily accept the first, and would not reject the latter two - but if the title of the work is Trees on Water, or Lion Statue, then I'd use the official title as the Wayspot title and include the artist attribution in the description. The title of a Wayspot should not be overly descriptive, because there's a special field for that - think of a novel, let's say "War and Peace" - that's the title, not "War and Peace, a Novel by Leo Tolstoy About Russian Families and Life During the War of 1812 and the Era Before the Decembrist Revolution" which would be a bit wordy as well as increasing the printing costs. If the official title is not known, then the artist name can reasonably be used to distinguish the work from other, similar works, like our own local "Wall Therapy by Mastrocola" which is an unnamed work by Philippe Mastrocola, part of our local Wall/Therapy program.
I'm not sure where this idea that people's names aren't allowed is coming from... Especially if it's the name of a park? People are coming up with more and more creative ways to deny nominations.
I know that some areas have a problem with submitters trying to insert heir own names, agent/trainer names, or similar code words for a variety of reasons (vote signaling, virtual fame & glory, malice....) so many reviewers are quite cautious when they see person names in any nomination. I agree that this is an overreaction, but submitters do have the option to provide verification info in their supporting detail to aid those reviewers in their due diligence.
They are fine. I'd add them in if you know them too.
I am a new reviewer and was simply asking for clarification on the following Rejection Criteria
Ineligible text or description
Title and/or description seems copied and pasted from other sources, includes emojis, tags, or personally identifiable information such as codenames, personal names or initials, or addresses.
Indeed. This is a case where the guidelines provided by Niantic are terribly misleading.
@SocksWithCr0cs-PGO what others are saying here is correct. If the name is directly related to the submission, it's acceptable. What Niantic is trying to say in those guidelines is to reject submissions whose text includes names that are unrelated to the submission (e.g. submitters inappropriately trying to add their own name to a Wayspot). Niantic is just terrible at phrasing things much if the time.
Niantic very much prefers "proper names" for wayspots.
However, they also recognize that MANY valid things don't have proper names. I mean, how many "Gazebo" or "Sportsball Field #7" locations do we even want in any given city?
When something doesn't have a proper name, we are encouraged to be creative. Our titles can be descriptive, dad jokes, or simply emotive.