After voting for a few thousand submissions (rating "good") and reading this post i thought to have a good reason to submit my stops. but: my named trail markers just got rejected!
attached are the two main pictures (2 stops) as well as 1 surrounding picture (where you can see the marker beside the road).
story: it is a lokal trail which shows you the some nearby bridges (you can find the trail on wikipedia as article on its own).
the submission was focussing on the trail, explaining the trail (description) and I added the AMA reference in the reason. no chance, both have been rejected in no time...
the reason for rejections are "location sensitive" and "Location Inappropriate" (apart "other reasons")
remark: the yellow signs are the public walking trails in the nature which you can see a lot in our country.
so - do I miss a point? in my opinion they fall under "trail signs with named route on the route" so should be accepted as "excellent".... I'm confused (and disappointed)
I miss something - my trail markers are rejected. giving some background:
apart from public walking trails (which we have a lot in our country) we have a lokal "sightseeing path" which comes across some bridges as main "POI". most of the way is outside the city in the free nature (there is a dedicated article on wikipedia).
you can see the two pictures (from two submissions) and one surrounding picture attached - they both are near the start of the trail were you leave the city towards the nature (to clarify "city": it's residental area with almost no traffic).
On this I could show the green space that the marker is by which probably helped.
On this there was no way to show the river and the green area to the left so probably hindered my submissions.
It may be the same for you. I've found that if that initial impression on a reviewer of my submission is a negative one, whether it's my fault or not, it's hard to change that to a positive one irrespective of the submissions eligibility.
After reading this thread I have now sent this for appeal as I believe it may meet the criteria, as clarified by @NianticGiffard
Its also interesting to note that in the Kendal, United Kingdom area there seem to be a spate of wooden Public Footpath fingerpost style signs that have been accepted. (Not submitted by me I hasten to add).
Nearly all of these are the same style as this, with a destination name included on the sign. In all honesty I don't think its completely binary but in rural/green areas these would seem to qualify. Maybe I misunderstood but it will be interesting to see the outcome of the appeal.
Well yes, This is the position I have always maintained.
But the solution is the same as it is for every nomination. It must be made blindingly obvious from the title and description which of the criteria a nomination fits, and why. For sure, if a public footpath follows a bronze-age trackway leading to a hill fort, a submitter really ought to be able to describe that in a way that screams "exploration".
But never can a random 'public footpath' sign be eligible on its own merit, without such a case being made. A shortcut to the Co-Op does not meet any of the criteria.
There is absolutely no need for Niantic to 'rule' about this or that type of trail marker (in their typically context-insensitive way that just sows further confusion), since the above requirement is all that any and every nomination needs to meet.
With the confusion/division around these initially, I wonder if anyone submitted one of these for the challenge of “potentially confusing candidates” that need further clarification.
Ich habe für das Thema Fahrrad und Wanderweg Schilder eines eingesendet. Weil dies ein großes Problem für Dorfspieler ist. Meist die einzige Möglichkeit um ein POI zu erzeugen. Wenn man 3 km von einem Dorf nach hause laufen muss ohne POI sehr traurig
@2Varus2-PGO This is no argument. If there is nothing interesting to become a POI - then there should be no POI. Unfortunately - these games are aimed to cities. Sorry.
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After voting for a few thousand submissions (rating "good") and reading this post i thought to have a good reason to submit my stops. but: my named trail markers just got rejected!
attached are the two main pictures (2 stops) as well as 1 surrounding picture (where you can see the marker beside the road).
story: it is a lokal trail which shows you the some nearby bridges (you can find the trail on wikipedia as article on its own).
the submission was focussing on the trail, explaining the trail (description) and I added the AMA reference in the reason. no chance, both have been rejected in no time...
the reason for rejections are "location sensitive" and "Location Inappropriate" (apart "other reasons")
remark: the yellow signs are the public walking trails in the nature which you can see a lot in our country.
so - do I miss a point? in my opinion they fall under "trail signs with named route on the route" so should be accepted as "excellent".... I'm confused (and disappointed)
thnks for any help to get them as new stops.
I miss something - my trail markers are rejected. giving some background:
apart from public walking trails (which we have a lot in our country) we have a lokal "sightseeing path" which comes across some bridges as main "POI". most of the way is outside the city in the free nature (there is a dedicated article on wikipedia).
you can see the two pictures (from two submissions) and one surrounding picture attached - they both are near the start of the trail were you leave the city towards the nature (to clarify "city": it's residental area with almost no traffic).
After a lot of voting (> 3k / rating "great") and reading the following thread:
I was confident that my submissions got approved.
title: name of route - location
description: information about the trail
reason: pointing to AMA as well as referncing "signs with named routes on the route are excellent wayspots"
however, both submissions have been rejected in no time. the reasons where "ohter", "location sensitive", "location inapproprite"
so - what do I miss? what can I improve to get them accepted?
I just had one rejected and one accepted on a National Trail in the UK.
On this I could show the green space that the marker is by which probably helped.
On this there was no way to show the river and the green area to the left so probably hindered my submissions.
It may be the same for you. I've found that if that initial impression on a reviewer of my submission is a negative one, whether it's my fault or not, it's hard to change that to a positive one irrespective of the submissions eligibility.
You may well be correct…….Deep sigh
Recently in Poland we have many concrete markers....
terribly weak nominations and unfortunately they pass :-(
https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/discussion/31918/are-concrete-markers-a-legitimate-pois#latest
After reading this thread I have now sent this for appeal as I believe it may meet the criteria, as clarified by @NianticGiffard
Its also interesting to note that in the Kendal, United Kingdom area there seem to be a spate of wooden Public Footpath fingerpost style signs that have been accepted. (Not submitted by me I hasten to add).
Nearly all of these are the same style as this, with a destination name included on the sign. In all honesty I don't think its completely binary but in rural/green areas these would seem to qualify. Maybe I misunderstood but it will be interesting to see the outcome of the appeal.
These concrete posts in Poland are not trail markers, but only indicate the location of telecommunications cables.
To be honest I have no idea how is it possible that they are accepted.
Well yes, This is the position I have always maintained.
But the solution is the same as it is for every nomination. It must be made blindingly obvious from the title and description which of the criteria a nomination fits, and why. For sure, if a public footpath follows a bronze-age trackway leading to a hill fort, a submitter really ought to be able to describe that in a way that screams "exploration".
But never can a random 'public footpath' sign be eligible on its own merit, without such a case being made. A shortcut to the Co-Op does not meet any of the criteria.
There is absolutely no need for Niantic to 'rule' about this or that type of trail marker (in their typically context-insensitive way that just sows further confusion), since the above requirement is all that any and every nomination needs to meet.
Niantic, thank you for explaining the topic, mark on hiking trails thanks to you my appointments have been accepted
Seit letztes Jahr 7 mal eingerreicht, wieso wird es immer abgelehnt? Es erfüllt doch die Kriterien oder nicht?
Gibt eigentlich keinen Grund das abzulehnen. Deine Bewerter sind halt nix.
With the confusion/division around these initially, I wonder if anyone submitted one of these for the challenge of “potentially confusing candidates” that need further clarification.
Ich habe für das Thema Fahrrad und Wanderweg Schilder eines eingesendet. Weil dies ein großes Problem für Dorfspieler ist. Meist die einzige Möglichkeit um ein POI zu erzeugen. Wenn man 3 km von einem Dorf nach hause laufen muss ohne POI sehr traurig
@2Varus2-PGO This is no argument. If there is nothing interesting to become a POI - then there should be no POI. Unfortunately - these games are aimed to cities. Sorry.