Apparently all three of my nominations were made on the same day, Sep 26. The mural and the parkette were both accepted on the same day (Oct 4), the town hall was accepted a few days earlier (Oct 1).
And all three took an inordinate amount of time to actually get into the game proper, as Niantic was dealing with another wayfarer bug (where ALL Niantic reviews were not populating into Ingress). I had to use a "thumbs up in pogo" workaround for the mural, which was not going to work for the other two as they both shared S2 cells with preexisting wayspots. It took an intervention by Tintino to get those into Ingress.
I have been having a hard time understanding comments like this that mention "areas with slow reviews". The conventional wisdom on here seems to be that your nominations can only(or are mostly) reviewed by people in your local area, which has NOT been my experience. When I review nominations, I constantly get nominations that are located hundreds or even thousands of miles away. My home location is set in the town I live in, and I have no secondary location set.
My nominations have been getting an up or down vote pretty quick as well, which seems to contradict the CW that it's slower in rural areas/small cities.
If you get a review that's outside of your usual reviewing areas, it's probably an upgraded submission.
As far as review speed, large cities are definitely slower than most small towns or rural areas. There is some relaxing of the acceptance trigger or widening of review area that Niantic implemented to help rural areas get reviews done.
However, there are some extreme cases of rural areas or isolated small towns where there aren't enough reviewers to finish any of the reviews, even with whatever trick Niantic uses to help rural reviews through the system. Those are the cases that break the typical pattern.
Must be a lot of upgrades flying around. I would guess that less than 5% of the nominations I've reviewed are located within 15 miles of my home location as set in Wayfarer. If I expand to within 50 miles, probably 15-20%. Out to 150 miles or so and I'm probably only up to 40%. The bulk of what I see is outside that 150 mile radius, in other states.
Our German community has the theory, that this instant Nia-review-grabs are caused by changes of the bad word filters. Maybe some words can now be used, but they instantly trigger a Niantic review.
There are a few example, that were mentioned during the last few days in our social media:
the suffix -schaft is very common in Germany and can be compared to the -ship in friendship. But because of the semantic level of the English word sh4ft as a verb words with this suffix seem to cause trouble. We had an instant Nia review example with this for a signs for town twinnings. Town twinning in German means StädtepartnerSCHAFT, also the word FreundSCHAFT was used in that submission.
H0l0c4ust
we saw changes to the banned syllable n1g ..... now it seems to be the following: if this syllable is combined with standalone words it's still forbidden. Explaining examples: German word "wen1g" means "few" and was effected by the bad word filter. "We" is a standalone word, so this combination is still banned. But other examples like the town names Pen1g and Leisn1g (both near Leipzig) seem to be possible now, because "Pe" and "Leis" are no standalone words.
I submit with minimal text because typing on my phone is so hard for me with my poor eyesight. This was snatched into Niantic Voting before I even got the email. Do y'all see anything that would trigger this?
Pretty sure my nomination of "Homewood Suite Viewpoint" (and yes, there's a typo in there) doesn't have any trigger words in there. I guess somebody's looking at them, because it was rejected after four days of voting. It might have been a stretch POI, but it didn't have a chance without any of the supporting info I was planning on adding.
I could see banned words being a factor for some selection, as it should be (for English-language nominations). But I can't see the common placeholder text of "mural" for all three or "tba" triggering that.
Aso, I'd like to make a correction on something I said earlier in the thread. It seems that URLs are not completely disallowed in-app for the supporting info. However, if the pasted info exceeds the 290-ish-character limit, the app will truncate it and gray out the upload buttons.
My own example, that went into a fast Nia voting a few weeks ago is this one:
Here also the trail name, that was in my texts, has something the @ in it, that could trigger a Nia vote, because an algorithm could have flagged that as potentially emoji or ULR stuff ....
A mi me rechazaron por segunda vez un cartel indicador de ruta ciclista (BTT) y en esta segunda ocasión poniendo claramente en las observaciones que estaba correctamente ubicado,
Fue rechazado en dos días y tengo en cola hace dos meses y en votación otros desde hace un mes.
I had one go straight to Niantic yesterday. I guess I can’t be THAT surprised if any of the text hit the banned words list, since said list is absurd, but the title is “Menlo Park Outdoor Lounge.” Hoping for a fast turnaround one way or the other, since that’s the potential advantage of a Niantic review.
I always use load later when at home. So I can put into hold as quick as I can.
But had one go straight into Niantic Voting a few days ago. I mean straight away. Not even 5 minutes between the upload and viewing in web.
The issue is I now edit at home so I can improve the nomination. does not always work but I feel the effort I do is worth it. So I don't actually write up the nominations in situ. So this instant Niantic Voting was going to fail instantly. I was a bit put out. But it is what it is ;-)
I don't actually know what Niantic Voting is. So was interested to see people saying it is a targetted approach.
The vast majority of my submissions, once in voting, are done in a week. But I do have a nomination that has sat there for 7 months now. Not in Niantic voting. Just sitting there in voting. So I have two examples at each end of the voting time spectrum.
Back to the initial post. I would love the option to put on hold when I decide to upload.
Could title or location trigger niantic to grab the nomination? I had a nomination rejected by niantic, so i resubmit it (same pic & title, but change description) hoping that it will go through normal review, but alas, it went to niantic again while other nominations didn't get taken by niantic
We think it's possible, but potential "triggers" are not the only reason why nominations are pulled into Niantic voting, because some wayfinders have had nominations with just "mural" as the placeholder text for title, description, and supplement, and theirs still got grabbed by Niantic. It is at least quasi-random. This probably means that some are randomly selected and some are not random, meaning a word or submitter behavior or pin location or something triggered it.
If no one else in your area is nominating things, then you are forced to review things from far away. To see more local POI, you need to encourage your locals to submit things.
About what I figured. It's weird, the city I live in is small, but there is a university and most gyms seem to be pretty active, with high level players that could be doing nominations. Although I tend to focus on areas away from the university, and the suburban parts of the area are pretty devoid of good fodder for nominations. Most of what I see within 45 miles or so of me is pretty obviously drawing from scattered, highly-motivated nominators that are really into nominating new stops(like me).
I'm glad this has at least been labeled as a bug, but if this happens to me I'll be pissed.
A lot of times I'm out far from home, and I'll submit something, but its so hot out that my screen dims to an unusable level, plus the sun... I nominating things best I can but there's not a chance in hell I can write out a proper description title and supporting info on the fly like that not being able to see the screen, and in iOS PoGo doesn't have auto correct or spell check...
My most recent submission was an "Illuminated Pergola" that I renamed when I got home, however when I got home I got to see what I actually typed blindly... which was "Illuminitard Peefola", with complete gibberish for the description and supporting info. Glad it wasn't snatched away by Niantic.
I had 5 nominatios go directly into Niantic in voting. 3 same day, 2 others on different days. I'm attaching what they told me but it doesn't make sense that EVERY single one of my newest nominations went into Niantic in voting.
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Apparently all three of my nominations were made on the same day, Sep 26. The mural and the parkette were both accepted on the same day (Oct 4), the town hall was accepted a few days earlier (Oct 1).
And all three took an inordinate amount of time to actually get into the game proper, as Niantic was dealing with another wayfarer bug (where ALL Niantic reviews were not populating into Ingress). I had to use a "thumbs up in pogo" workaround for the mural, which was not going to work for the other two as they both shared S2 cells with preexisting wayspots. It took an intervention by Tintino to get those into Ingress.
I have been having a hard time understanding comments like this that mention "areas with slow reviews". The conventional wisdom on here seems to be that your nominations can only(or are mostly) reviewed by people in your local area, which has NOT been my experience. When I review nominations, I constantly get nominations that are located hundreds or even thousands of miles away. My home location is set in the town I live in, and I have no secondary location set.
My nominations have been getting an up or down vote pretty quick as well, which seems to contradict the CW that it's slower in rural areas/small cities.
If you get a review that's outside of your usual reviewing areas, it's probably an upgraded submission.
As far as review speed, large cities are definitely slower than most small towns or rural areas. There is some relaxing of the acceptance trigger or widening of review area that Niantic implemented to help rural areas get reviews done.
However, there are some extreme cases of rural areas or isolated small towns where there aren't enough reviewers to finish any of the reviews, even with whatever trick Niantic uses to help rural reviews through the system. Those are the cases that break the typical pattern.
A friend of mine showed his nomination that was taken by niantic and got approved, did the staff even read the description? XD
Must be a lot of upgrades flying around. I would guess that less than 5% of the nominations I've reviewed are located within 15 miles of my home location as set in Wayfarer. If I expand to within 50 miles, probably 15-20%. Out to 150 miles or so and I'm probably only up to 40%. The bulk of what I see is outside that 150 mile radius, in other states.
I am really, really angry here.
I just made a contribution, and before i could edit the text, it is in Niantic-Voting.
Just Stop this!!!!! @NianticTintino
Our German community has the theory, that this instant Nia-review-grabs are caused by changes of the bad word filters. Maybe some words can now be used, but they instantly trigger a Niantic review.
There are a few example, that were mentioned during the last few days in our social media:
That’s interesting @Raachermannl-ING
I wonder if there is a common word or words that people use as place holders?
I submit with minimal text because typing on my phone is so hard for me with my poor eyesight. This was snatched into Niantic Voting before I even got the email. Do y'all see anything that would trigger this?
Title: Graceful Expressions Dance Education
Description: Dance studio for all ages
Supplemental Information: Submitting under exercise, exploration, and social criteria.
@NianticGiffard can you please ask the team to stop snatching these immediately? Maybe give us 24 hours?
Maybe Edication triggers a check for KS12🤷♀️
Pretty sure my nomination of "Homewood Suite Viewpoint" (and yes, there's a typo in there) doesn't have any trigger words in there. I guess somebody's looking at them, because it was rejected after four days of voting. It might have been a stretch POI, but it didn't have a chance without any of the supporting info I was planning on adding.
I could see banned words being a factor for some selection, as it should be (for English-language nominations). But I can't see the common placeholder text of "mural" for all three or "tba" triggering that.
Aso, I'd like to make a correction on something I said earlier in the thread. It seems that URLs are not completely disallowed in-app for the supporting info. However, if the pasted info exceeds the 290-ish-character limit, the app will truncate it and gray out the upload buttons.
My own example, that went into a fast Nia voting a few weeks ago is this one:
Here also the trail name, that was in my texts, has something the @ in it, that could trigger a Nia vote, because an algorithm could have flagged that as potentially emoji or ULR stuff ....
A mi me rechazaron por segunda vez un cartel indicador de ruta ciclista (BTT) y en esta segunda ocasión poniendo claramente en las observaciones que estaba correctamente ubicado,
Fue rechazado en dos días y tengo en cola hace dos meses y en votación otros desde hace un mes.
I had one go straight to Niantic yesterday. I guess I can’t be THAT surprised if any of the text hit the banned words list, since said list is absurd, but the title is “Menlo Park Outdoor Lounge.” Hoping for a fast turnaround one way or the other, since that’s the potential advantage of a Niantic review.
As the new issue has been going on for this lone with NO other response from Niantic, I've made a "bug" thread:
https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/discussion/35325/nominations-are-immediately-being-taken-into-in-voting-niantic
Upvoted - thanks for your help!
(That forum has so many "approved Pokemon hasn't appeared after 48 hours" threads that I tend to forget about it.)
well thanks!
I always use load later when at home. So I can put into hold as quick as I can.
But had one go straight into Niantic Voting a few days ago. I mean straight away. Not even 5 minutes between the upload and viewing in web.
The issue is I now edit at home so I can improve the nomination. does not always work but I feel the effort I do is worth it. So I don't actually write up the nominations in situ. So this instant Niantic Voting was going to fail instantly. I was a bit put out. But it is what it is ;-)
I don't actually know what Niantic Voting is. So was interested to see people saying it is a targetted approach.
The vast majority of my submissions, once in voting, are done in a week. But I do have a nomination that has sat there for 7 months now. Not in Niantic voting. Just sitting there in voting. So I have two examples at each end of the voting time spectrum.
Back to the initial post. I would love the option to put on hold when I decide to upload.
Could title or location trigger niantic to grab the nomination? I had a nomination rejected by niantic, so i resubmit it (same pic & title, but change description) hoping that it will go through normal review, but alas, it went to niantic again while other nominations didn't get taken by niantic
We think it's possible, but potential "triggers" are not the only reason why nominations are pulled into Niantic voting, because some wayfinders have had nominations with just "mural" as the placeholder text for title, description, and supplement, and theirs still got grabbed by Niantic. It is at least quasi-random. This probably means that some are randomly selected and some are not random, meaning a word or submitter behavior or pin location or something triggered it.
If no one else in your area is nominating things, then you are forced to review things from far away. To see more local POI, you need to encourage your locals to submit things.
About what I figured. It's weird, the city I live in is small, but there is a university and most gyms seem to be pretty active, with high level players that could be doing nominations. Although I tend to focus on areas away from the university, and the suburban parts of the area are pretty devoid of good fodder for nominations. Most of what I see within 45 miles or so of me is pretty obviously drawing from scattered, highly-motivated nominators that are really into nominating new stops(like me).
Yes, while my appeal hasn't even gotten in voting in 5 months...
Appeals just seem slow in general. I've got one sitting out there for about 3 months; my nominations seem to go through in a week or two.
I'm glad this has at least been labeled as a bug, but if this happens to me I'll be pissed.
A lot of times I'm out far from home, and I'll submit something, but its so hot out that my screen dims to an unusable level, plus the sun... I nominating things best I can but there's not a chance in hell I can write out a proper description title and supporting info on the fly like that not being able to see the screen, and in iOS PoGo doesn't have auto correct or spell check...
My most recent submission was an "Illuminated Pergola" that I renamed when I got home, however when I got home I got to see what I actually typed blindly... which was "Illuminitard Peefola", with complete gibberish for the description and supporting info. Glad it wasn't snatched away by Niantic.
Has anyone tried to ask through twitter?
Yes i have but they told me to reach out via the chat which i posted their response
I had 5 nominatios go directly into Niantic in voting. 3 same day, 2 others on different days. I'm attaching what they told me but it doesn't make sense that EVERY single one of my newest nominations went into Niantic in voting.
How to hold when it went directly to niantic as soon as we upload it? 😅