Nomination "JTL Memorial Bench" - Caulfield North, Victoria

This nomination seems suspicious. "JTL Memorial Bench".

Description: "Memorial Bench for Julian Tau Listokin, a well known local who has dedicated their life to improve the area of Caulfield over several decades."

Supporting: "It is a memorial bench at the entrance to Caulfield Park & Recreational Area. This bench is one of the few that acknowledges dedicated locals who have contributed significantly to improve our local area to what it is today."

For someone who is of such importance to the community, there is absolutely no digital presence. Not on socials and nothing in search.

The supporting photo is a repeat of the main photo, does not support the claimed location, and seems to be deliberately vague.

Regardless of it actually being a real plaque, the pin is not on a bench.



Seems suspicious.


  • JillJilyJabadoo-PGOJillJilyJabadoo-PGO Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Memorial bench on the street with no info on Google about the person memorialized is a pretty easy rejection. You can flag as fake abuse if you're suspicious beyond that, but I've never seen fake abuse making a difference over a normal rejection vote. They still end up in the game anyway if others accept. (Point being, if you rejected for memorial bench or rejected for fake, you're good either way.)

  • Cowyn2016-PGOCowyn2016-PGO Posts: 519 ✭✭✭✭

    Not suspicious as much as just not eligible 1*. Three Criteria are Explore, Exercise, Gather.

    Benches don't ever meet exercise.

    Explore/Gather are the only 2. There are a few ways the bench can meet it.

    Two easiest are:

    1) Be someone famous to area --- this person shouldnt be hard to lock up... Nope

    2) Be super unique/artistic iteself. ..... Nope

    After that it becomes a tough thing to convince people.

    3) If its on a trail.... To me it would be as good as a trail marker. It encourages exploring down the trail. You can even make an arguement that a Niantic Clarification said "etc" about things that serve as good pin markers for trails.....

    4) As man-made anchor for an natural feature such as a scenic view. Natural things are eligible, but you need an anchor. You'd have to convince readers why the bench is suitable.

    Personally, I think benches should work in parks too.... but unlike #3, you don't have anything comparable such as trail markers and niantic comments to point too.

  • There's another memorial bench nominated in the same park. I am happy for this one as there is a legitimate plaque and a PhotoSphere. But the supporting photo still does not provide any further evidence to prove the location of the bench.

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