Nominating new PGO stops a waste of time?
ZekromNinja-PGO
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Why are most of the PGO stop nominations getting denied “by the PGO community”?? I’ve recommend new stops in parks where there are none, park benches on trails, marked hiking and biking trails, neighborhood coffee shops, laundries and Mail boxes. All of these locations promote exploring the outdoors where there are no PGO stops and loads of families visit these locations daily.
is it a complete waste of time Niantic? I feel bad the the PGO community in these areas that love to play PGO.
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Submitting new wayspots is not a waste of time if you are submitting things that meet the acceptance criteria, don't run afoul of any of the rejection criteria, and you are presenting them in a way that makes it easy for reviewers to understand and accept the candidate.
Submitting "laundries and mail boxes" is definitely a waste of time as they are very unlikely to meet the criteria for acceptance.
Just to add that the lack of pokestops or gyms in an area is not part of the consideration on whether to accept a wayspot nomination or not.
You can share your nominations in the thread and we can let you know if they’re a waste of time to resubmit or not.
As for the community, it’s the “Wayfarer” community. Not just Pokémon GO. Ingress folks too.
In addition, you’re not nominating a PokéStop but a Wayspot that may become a PokéStop if approved and if it meets inclusion rules.
Decision by committee.. often very wobbly .... personally I'm not really great in accepting unfavourable outcomes.
Most parks have a few good things to submit. It could be you just need to shift your view a bit on deciding what to nominate?
I would recommend taking @PkmnTrainerJ-ING advice above to get some help on finding the good Wayspots.
park benches on trails - plain old park benches are a deny, memorial benches with some extra info in the submission have a chance, depending on location and who the bench was dedicated to
marked hiking and biking trails - should be accepted, make sure your pictures clearly show what it is
neighborhood coffee shops - needs good backup information to go through, why is that neighborhood coffee shop a good pokestop?
laundries - generic business, 99% chance of denial
Mail boxes - no. does not meet any acceptance criteria.
Remember - great place to explore, great place to exercise, and/or great place to socialize with others is your main goal. Then double check the acceptance and rejection criteria. But from what you've been submitting, I can see why you're having an issue.
I disagree with 2 comments above based on guidance we've been given here on the forums by Niantic employees (who may no longer be active).
1 - Lack of POI in an area can be a reason to be more lenient, especially in rural areas. If the goal is to assist rural players get more POI, then we should be more willing to help them with things they are able to nominate. I've been out there in rural places. Some of them are so poorly funded that they don't have the good things we have in better areas. We aren't helping anyone by being gatekeepers.
2 - Piggybacking on that, benches along trails may be the only thing marking the trail. Even in my well-funded area, there's one really great hike/bike trail that is poorly marked. It is well paved and has benches along the way. When someone is decided whether or not they want to continue walking down this deeply wooded path, knowing that there is another resting bench just ahead may be just what they need to encourage them to explore a little bit further. I think it is absolutely in the spirit of Exploration and Exercise to approve plain benches along a walking trail if that's all there is to give the community as a POI. And Niantic employees have said so as well.
Without seeing the nominations I can't really say for certain, and I'm certainly more lenient when there isn't a blob of stops on the map nearby. But considering there are things in OPs initial post that should be eligible, it leads me to believe something in the description or picture is flunking the stop out as well. More lenient with what can be a stop, absolutely, but if the submission has a picture full of people faces and a janky description, it's still a no from me.
Agree. Though I'm sometimes even more lenient with the photo quality knowing that photos can be added later. With how long it takes some places to get through the system, I hate to force a person to wait another 12 months because a sliver of a car mirror is showing or there's a slight tilt to the photo. Hideously bad problems, yes, sorry, submitter should have known better and will hopefully learn.
The same criteria applies whether the location is in a city or rural area. It is the subjective nature of said criteria that gives us leeway when looking at nominations not specifically the lack of wayspots. You can have rural areas that have many wayspots.
Many times when I see a lack of wayspots mentioned in the supporting information you can see that there are wayspots nearby, just maybe not close enough or a high enough number for their liking.
It has been said to be more lenient inn rural areas. Local hotspots may very well be the corner convenience store. Gathering places may be a local barber shop. Etc.
@29andCounting-PGO This is true.
However, some people take that too far. I've seen submissions that were something like a drainpipe or a street sign with supporting info of, "Please accept this since it's the only thing we have around here." I'm fairly certain that nearly every town in the world has at least one thing that would qualify as a wayspot with reviewers only needing to be slightly more lenient. The importance does need to be spelled out for reviewers, though. "This looks like a little general store, but there's a room in the back that gets used for town hall meetings, and when it's not in use people often use it for coffee and hanging out."
Hola, hoy me han rechazado una propuesta de un buzón de correos que hay en una plaza de mi pueblo, un buzón que lleva puesto 'toda la vida' como quien dice en la plaza, el motivo del rechazo ha sido que es un elemento temporal, no entiendo en qué se basan para rechazarlo, cuando no es cierto, estoy muy desmotivada con la propuesta de pokeparadas ya que me las rechazan todas sin ningún criterio real.
Hola, hoy me han rechazado una propuesta de un buzón de correos que hay en una plaza de mi pueblo, un buzón que lleva puesto 'toda la vida' como quien dice en la plaza, el motivo del rechazo ha sido que es un elemento temporal, no entiendo en qué se basan para rechazarlo, cuando no es cierto, estoy muy desmotivada con la propuesta de pokeparadas ya que me las rechazan todas sin ningún criterio real.
Please see my previous comment. Very likely it is ineligible.
I don’t know what you’re saying in your supporting comments, but if it’s anything that leans on “there are no pokestops around here” too much, that might turn off some reviewers. I would avoid saying anything like that.
I would literally stick to the criteria in the supporting comment, and make sure your supporting photo squashes possible disqualifying criteria (like making it 100% clear it is not on private property) Also, check your spelling and punctuation thoroughly.
From what you’ve described, some don’t sound like they’d be good candidates, but some of them do. Good luck.
I never said to believe "there's no pokestops nearby" hook, link, and sinker. I said we have been told to be more lenient in rural areas. That means evaluating how many POI show up on the map in the area. While I'm not in favor of the person writing "moar pokestops" I'm also not going to let that influence me either way because I have a brain in my head.
Of course, not relevant to anything here. Just watching a film and thought of it.
A lot of people come here saying similar things but often when they show their submissions it's found they are either not things that are accepted or sometimes they are but need to be submitted in a better way.
It's not always the case but the first step is to post some of the rejected submissions and see what people say. You might not agree with what they say but as these are the very people who vote on new pokestops, it's worth listening and understanding what they say. Debating it rarely makes a difference and arguing against what they say never makes a difference. So use what they say to learn how to get your stops accepted