How niantic demotivates it's players and stops them caring about reviewing/nominating pokestops
Shepeteksht-PGO
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I've got a pokestop approved 5 days ago and it doesn't appear in Pogo. Pokestop location is 53.432837116196865, -2.961563772162661. I don't care about their other games (rumour has it they might decide to throw that POI over there), real players know they are, to say politely, trash and they're not even worth mentioning, all I care about Pokemon go and how I can make my play experience better. The best way is to do it is to find a POI during my daily grind routes, nominate it and for it to get approved. I did all of that and, well, it hasn't been implemented in the game. And yes, I understand that they have those squares of how many stops can be in one, which is a stupid way of saying choose only one POI in this area. Just shows how this system doesn't work, rotten to the core. This will be shared with a local community and me personally, I will stop reviewing and nominating pokestops.
P.S. There are few more pokestops in the area and by the looks of it they were approved ages ago without any issues.
/rant over
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I don’t get how the system is “rotten to the core”. You nominated something that was in the same cell as the nearby mural so it only shows on Ingress and not Pokémon GO.
You can learn systems to ensure this doesn’t happen again but you have to understand you’re nominating Wayspots which might get added to Pokémon GO.
But thanks for the new Portal!
Please note, by submitting you’ve agreed that it can be used in other games.
Note about user-submitted content and ownership
When you submit a PokéStop nomination to Niantic, we don’t claim ownership of that content. You still retain your rights to the content as the creator. But you do grant Niantic a license to use the content in any way we see fit. This means, for example, that we have your permission to use the PokéStop images and descriptions to create new in-game locations in Pokémon GO, but we also have your permission to use them to create locations across different games. This is just a brief summary of how we use user-submitted content.
If you’re saying you care about improving gameplay you’ll be happy to know you have done so for Ingress players and maybe even future games! Well done! 👏 👏 👏
You've completely missed the whole point of the post. I don't care about other niantic games. And you've just explained why this system is rotten to the core. I've nominated a POI, that has an upgrade used on, to improve my and other local players game play for it to just get implemented into some other trash game. No thx, this has done it for me. Let those nominations just sit there, no more reviewing from me. You are trying to defend a system that is just wrong.
I wouldn’t say Ingress is a “trash game” but I doubt you play so haven’t experienced it.
The problem is that now to do Wayfarer, part of you has to care about the other games. Being focused on just one game isn’t the way Niantic wants people to be thinking, based on what they’ve said and what they’ve been doing.
Maybe your thinking is different but when I’m nominating, I’m doing it to improve all the games, even ones yet to come out.
I don’t see how it is “wrong”, it’s just not the way you want it to be (focused on one game only).
But again, thanks for the new Portal and whatever else it’ll be in Peridot/Marvel World of Heroes/NBA All World! 😊
You should defo be a politician with all this word twisting and making sure you are right.. smh. It is trash, tried it, hated it, binned it. And no probs for a new PORTAL (lol btw it is a point of interest, every normal players know what), enjoy it. I'm still standing my ground - this is wrong and should not be happening - what's nominated in pogo should be rejected/accepted in pogo, but hey, it's their choice and people like you are defending it, so I guess it won't change.
If you don't choose to check what else is already in the cell (given you say that the current pokéstop has been there for a while so presumably was already there when you nominated), that's your look out.
And no it isn't "rotten to the core" that wayspots that meet Ingress distance guidelines go into Ingress. Do you even realise that there would have been practically no wayspots to become pokéstops and gyms if it wasn't for Ingress players nominating them??? Take a slight hint from the names of the people replying to you - we played Pokémon Go first before we picked up Ingress. I picked up Ingress because I actually cared about increasing the playability of Pokémon Go enough to learn about how to do that.
Well, at least you tried the game. Shame you didn’t enjoy it. You could have levelled to 10 and got some more Nominations.
I’m not sure why you’re debating the wording. It has made a new Portal, but sure it is a Wayspot/Point of Interest also to Niantic, that they’re free to use in games however they want to.
As said, you could have looked into some additional information easily available on other sites to see that it would not appear on Pokémon GO.
I get that from your mentality of “if I nominate it via this game, it should appear on this game” that it seems wrong but that’s not the way it works.
Niantic do a crappy job of explaining this, so I get that you may not have understood when nominating this, but you know now and can use this knowledge if you decide to nominate anything else.
Best of luck with your future nominations!
@Shepeteksht-PGO why not just learn the cell rules?
Quick question @Shepeteksht-PGO , would you nominate something that wouldn’t appear in any current game?
I have 117 nominations In Queue/Voting and probably 50 of them won’t even appear in Ingress, but may show up on future games.
I’ve nominated things that I think meet acceptance/eligibility criteria and are points of interest (all in the correct location) and I’ll just let things land where they will, I don’t care which game they go in to.
Checked that before nominating, looked like it was going to pass. Sadly it didn't. Don't make assumptions, rather you should ask. Now, you just tried to look smart and that didn't go well.
It’s very clear it wouldn’t, unless you intentionally misplaced it? 🤔
You don't care about other games, and we don't particularly care about selfish attitudes here, that's why you're getting multiple disagrees on your comments.
If you only want nominations that are submitted by Pokémon Go players to be used in Pokémon Go, your area would be very barren in indeed, as most of the Pokéstops and Gyms you use will have been submitted by Ingress agents who didn't have Pokémon Go in mind when they submitted them. So think of this as you paying those Ingress agents back for all the hard work they put in to give you a playable area in Pokémon Go, and stop complaining.
The games could be clearer that you're not nominating a game specific point of interest, which is something we've brought up with Niantic several times. That being said, there are plenty of guides and FAQs online that detail the proximity rules that each game uses, so that you can tell whether your wayspot will actually be able to appear in a game or not. And remember, if something gets removed from a game, having a back up wayspot nearby isn't necessarily a bad idea as it would instantly show up if the wayspot blocking it from appearing were to be removed.
Nope, there are other 2 pokestops and this one would make a decent 3rd triangle corner. Well, there is nothing more to discuss tbh, you are sticking to your guns, I'm sticking to mine. There won't be a winner. And thx for wishing good luck with other stops - don't think there will be any, every single POI is nominated in the areas I play. No more new PORTALS for you, sunshine 🙄
P.S. To your question above - not anymore. If I knew this wouldn't be appearing in Pogo, I would have not nominated it.
No problem. Seems there's a few other misplaced Wayspots there so I'll swing by and nominate more things for all the games and correct the rest. Have a nice day.
In that case, I'll move to Liverpool and sub the rest, improving the gameplay of others! 😁
It's clear that it would be in the same cell as the other mural that already exists?
Hurrah for improving gameplay which was @Shepeteksht-PGO 's original aim! They will be so pleased!
Boss move m8 (flagged as an inappropriate word, lol), will save everyone's time 👍️
Very odd that ma-te is censored.
Hi there, quick comment.
I reviewed this sub, and I quite liked it, however I noticed one thing about it - your pin was a little off, so I moved it.
I won't give away what tipped me off so you can't abuse it, but thank you for improving the Ingress gameboard, Ingress is a really cool strategy game and you've made it so much better for me and other agents.
No p0k3rst0p for you though.
And that's your issue. Not Niantic.
Or are you trying to compare your approved Pokestop to a place like Zaragoza, Budapest, Kiribati etc. which host Pokestops that you would think, "how can they have Pokestops as many as possible in a cell while mine can't? The system is rotten to the core!1!1!" ? Then that's your issue for whining.
Well this is a thread that shows the need for active moderation 🤔
There was no need for this to quickly develop into a “shouting match”, with inflammatory posts on both sides.
Could people just chill a little.
I know I’m getting older 🙄 but perhaps we can step away from the playground and then we might actually be able to try and resolve and learn.
Thx everyone for a proper discussion. Enjoyed it, almost. Lessons learned - never submit a pokestop near another pokestop and double check the cells. Smaller cities doesn't deserve more stops in close proximity, because they're not Zaragosa or Budapest or even Kiribati. And it's not allowed to think otherwise. It is sad, but Oh well, I'll see myself out. Happy gr1nding (censorship again) peeps. Oh and btw @HankWolfman-PGO disagreeing with someone is normal. That's how changes are made.
Seriously, It may be fun to dogpile new people who don't know what's going on but it contributes to the toxic reputation the wayfarer community has and kills engagement/recruitment of new users. Odds are somebody logged into this forum for the first time today, saw this, and logged off forever.
@Shepeteksht-PGO You need to caaalm doown and get a grip, you have a problem. It's not what most people think though.
Why the £#!£ hasn't anyone in your community nominated the Shankly Gates or the Dalglish Stand?
There is also a really nice LFC crest near your failed submission on Anfield Road.
If I can get this added
you can easily get that added. Although it won't appear in Go as a p0k3rst0p... some people might appreciate it being there though!
It went too far this thread, innit m8? 🙄 I know it would, but every single POI you've mentioned, if approved, won't benefit local pogo community. Considering how toxic this all went down, I'll let all the ING folks to sort it out, if they want to. There are crazy amounts of POI around the Anfield stadium, but majority wouldn't be implemented in pogo.
@The26thDoctor-PGO I'll double check those enormous cells, if there's smth that can benefit local players, I'll nominate it.
I had a look around and saw 5 that could be added and would appear in Go.
I'm not going to tell you though as I'm only in it for myself :D
Guys, basicly deep down inside @OP isnt really wrong. Niantic isnt telling him about S2-Cells, he didnt read about it on the internet. The outcome: His contribution is now in a game that maybe 5 people in the area play - not in the game that maybe 100 play.
Life would be better for all of us if Niantic just would overthink their idea of a gameboard.
In the end, Niantic is losing alot of WAYSPOTS because people just do not submit them, as their contribution would not be "on one or several games".
And btw WAYSPOT is just something someone at Niantic did to make us all miserable. "Hey, let´s just rebrand everything to something that will make it outstanding."
I would have a field day submitting stuff there regardless of whether it would appear in any games or not! Sadly, last time I was able to go to Anfield for a match, it was long before Niantic even had a database for points of interest. I'd love another chance to go back there.
The Shankly Gates alone would be worth the trip so you could send the gift to your Evertonian friends.
Maybe @Shepeteksht-PGO will be nice and submit them.