POKEMON GO
Hola, creo que es bastante injusto que los que intentamos conseguir pokeparadas para pokemon go veamos como se nos aceptan propuestas para que después no aparezcan en el juego. Las dos ultimas propuestas que he hecho han sido aceptadas tras un largo tiempo de espera y ninguna ha sido para pokemon go. Es bastante frustrante la verdad y ya no pienso perder mas el tiempo para al final NO CONSEGUIR NADA.
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Kthxbye
You’re not nominating a PokéStop though, despite what the game says.
You’re nominating a Wayspot which may become a PokéStop if it meets game inclusion rules for that game. It may have shown up as a Portal on Ingress and may also appear in future games too. So you’ve helped out a gaming community regardless.
Hello and welcome @VicenteFolch-PGO
Your frustration at what you have experienced is understandable, and it happens all the time.
The underlying issue is that Niantic have not explained what happens when you submit a place to be considered..
Although the impression you are given when you submit something is that you are submitting to be a pokestop the reality is that you are submitting something with the potential to be a pokestop.
You passed the first step of getting it approved.
Once your nomination is approved, it is accepted into the Lightship database - this holds all approved wayspots and is separate from all Niantic games. That is the end point of wayfarer, and what happens next is not related to wayfarer.
Each game sets its own rules as to what it will take from the database to use in that particular game. Niantic will not say anything about the rules, however players have essentially worked them out.
For Pokémon Go the rules revolve around the use of some mapping software commonly referred to as S2 cells.
Google: S2 cells and Pokémon Go - Pokémongohub has a very good explanation.
The key is that in PoGo it only accepts 1 wayspot in each Level 17 cell, so if there is already a pokestop or gym in the game in that cell, yours will not be selected to be taken from Lightship by the Pokémon Go developers.
It is disappointing and frustrating when this happens. As Niantic won’t even acknowledge this, it is better if you can redirect your efforts to learn about the rules to avoid this happening.
There is a lot to learn, but don’t be put off. It is very satisfying when you finally get it right.
i hope you get some success soon.
One day, I’ll memorise @Elijustrying-ING ‘s response to these threads but for now, happy being short and sweet whilst they provide full details.
😂
Great comprehensive answer.
Contributing to wayspots to the Niantic Map (used by all our games) does not guarantee the incorporation of newly added wayspots since every game board has different rules (which may change whenever our games need to).
@NianThib "Why didn't it show up in my game?" is by far the most frequently-asked question on this forum... we typically see at least 1-2 people asking this every single day. Can you or someone at Niantic write up a post about this and pin it at the top of the forum, or even better ask @Elijustrying-ING to slightly reword their standard blurb, post it as a new post, and pin that?
Still better: Reword the acceptance email to make it much more obvious to people that their approved submission may or may not show up in any particular game.
Stretch goal: All of the above, but reword the submission workflows to make it clear that people are not submitting Pokestops or Portals, but rather Wayspots that might appear in one or more games.
there isnt a solution to this; Niantic has made their bed with s2-lvl17 and now needs to lie next to it every night.
I think just for one day they should toggle the level 17 switch to off.
Then switch it back on a day later.
It's the only way to get through to the types who play Pokémon Go.
They could address some of this by rerandomizing the playfield every six months or so. That would give people new things to play with and it would mean that people's submissions weren't permanently frozen out of PoGo.
(This wouldn't work in Ingress for a variety of reasons.)
I don't think explaining Lightship (vs what shows up in game) is anywhere on Niantic's radar - or they would have changed nomination texts years ago.
And if Niantic wanted emails to be clear or accurate (or helpful), they wouldn't go 15 months (so far) falsely saying edits can be seen on your contribution page - and dozens of other email errors. Here's a 5-month-old email bug report list that has been ignored: https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/discussion/37308/all-17-wayfarer-emails-are-wrong-and-or-misleading#latest
It's an astonishing way to do business. Correcting email or nomination text should be simple and quick.
But it is what it is. You can tell a tiger by its stripes. Best not to expect it to be an owl.
IOW: The un-clarity is working as intended.
Es que no estás aceptando Pokeparadas para PGO exactamente. Cómo revisor estás evaluando propuestas para Niantic, potenciales puntos de interés y no necesariamente aparecerán en PGO. Estás contribuyendo a la comunidad de Wayfarer en general y no siempre tus propuestas se verán en el juego que quieres
A new user gets confused about something that isn't adequately explained by the submission process and the first response they get, from an ambassador, is "Kthxbye". That's one person who's never going to review.
The text was edited after I wrote my response. The original message was impossible to read. It required you to scroll left and right to read the whole thing. Random words were shown in different colors. And the actual message was a random collection of words that didn't really make any sense. It was a flippant response, but the message was indecipherable. Notice that it was edited by a Niantic employee. I don't know how they determined the original content of the message. Basically the only thing I had to go on was the title being "Pokemon GO." Ambassadors are people, too.
That's the way it should be.
And if you also add Pokémon gym rotation, the current problem of ugly fights over gyms in Pokémon GO would almost disappear.
Well, it doesn't matter what we say, because the game won't change unless Michael changes his mindset.
I’ve suggested this in other places too but got downvoted into oblivion. I guess it’s not what the player base wants.
Personally I prefer a stable game board. If events can’t be run smoothly there is no way anything other than a stable board would work 🙄
That's because Pokémon players want to move as little as possible, and players who have created couch gyms and couch PokéStops can't stand to see them disappear.
And some of the PoGo team staff seem to think that Pokémon Go wants to be a home console played on a smartphone.
But of course, that's not ideal that Hanke has in mind, so to me it looks like the staff is fighting to determine that vector.
Well, this is outside the purpose of this forum, so let's discuss the rest of this when the Pokémon GO forum opens. (LOL)
P.S.
To Michael, "Why don't you guys create a PoGo forum?" I asked him on Twitter, but he didn't give me an answer.
@tp235-ING
This forum should be a welcoming place where we can have discussions and we can disagree 🤣, but I don’t think it’s helpful to make that comment about Pokémon Go trainers in that way.
My personal view is that we should avoid as much as possible comments that are negative generalisations about players of any of the games. If we do that, it will create a better more supportive impression as people arrive.
Your suggestion would ruin the community aspect of game play Niantic is trying to push people back to. Just this past weekend, we had Elite Raids at EX gyms at 11am, 2pm, and 5pm. Our community all came together at 11am to do the raids and then at noon we dropped golden lures along a walking route in the same park. There were at least 50 people out raiding and walking.
It was already hard to coordinate and communicate those plans to people who have been raiding the same gym routes for 6 years. If the gyms changed on a regular basis, it would be a nightmare. A handful of people would figure it out and the rest would give up. Game board stability (with just natural changes) is key to building a community of players.
Many Pokemon Go players enjoy getting gold gyms - imagine if you were partially through silver and the gyms rotated, and you had to trust the company to preserve your stats there while the gym was dormant? I personally treasure my Gym Leader badge more than any, and like looking for remote gyms I can maybe sit in a while. Don't be cutting my streak short to keep things fresh for players in more populated areas! I do agree that the gym system needs a rework, a return to training to earn a spot to drop, reduction in individual holdings from 20 to 10 or 15, more slots in each gym, and daily coin cashouts (maybe 5 coins per gym every 24 hours you stay in) without getting booted. I'm tired of traveling to a gym far away that is lightly contended, flipping it in my favor, dropping a strong defender - and then having a passerby drop a Caterpie in and then after a day having that Caterpie owner asking someone to take the gym so they can get their coins.
Wayfarer-related: ummmmm....I can't think of a way to make this Wayfarer-related. It's early, and I'm not at my creative peak. 😂
I have my gold medals from a gym now removed from the database and from a now demoted pokestop if that helps. If EX-tagged are concerned, they should just have a separate rotation around park-locations vs regular gyms in the same S2 L14 cell. Park areas should be priority in gym creation in the first place.
So.. any news on changing the "pokestop nomination" to "wayspot nomination"? Isn't this the 4th one this week?
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So.. any news on changing the "pokestop nomination" to "wayspot nomination"? Isn't this the 4th one this week?
Miracles take time 🙄