New Wayfarer Abuse Enforcement Ladder Policy - Discussion

Hello Explorers, 

As you know, these last couple of months the Wayfarer Team, our Ambassadors, along with many others from across Niantic have been working hard to understand and combat ways in which bad actors abuse Wayfarer. These types of abuse can take form in the ways of low-quality contributions, review rings, and many other ways.

The Wayfarer Map and the Explorer Community shapes the game board for every part of the Niantic ecosystem which is why we invite only dedicated players to this community. Bad actors can negatively influence the map across many of our products, and as such abuse in Wayfarer will be taken very seriously. 

That is why we want to announce our new Wayfarer Abuse Enforcement Ladder. This ladder will be utilized whenever we come across any form of abuse and illustrate the steps we will take to both warn the offender, suspend the offender, and introduce an official suspension appeal process for overturning what could have been a wrongful suspension. 

Please visit our Wayfarer Help Center to view our new policy.

Original post HERE.

Safe Exploring!



  • RyuuVanDraco-PGORyuuVanDraco-PGO Posts: 159 ✭✭✭
    edited September 15

    This ladder will be utilized whenever we come across any form of abuse


    Then i demand from you to take action on everyone who rejected my hiking and bikling trails so far. Especially the recent days I got complete arbitrary reason for rejction such as no pedestrian acces, 3rd party material use and ehatnot. I probably collected dozens of rejections due to people who don't know the rules and bots.

    My hiking trails all come with sufficient titels and descriptions, the routes themselves are marked with unique symbols and mostly names to them, they are permanent and my additional comments includes a link to a page where all necessary information such as official and hiker made trail maps with exact positioning are found as screenshots with sources attached.

    There is legit 0 reason to reject any of them. They all follow the rules.

    This clearly is an abuse of the rejection system.

    Example wanted? I could have been done with this village 2 years ago and took care of other places around. But no, thanks to incapability I still have to use many submission possibilities a month to take care of this place.

  • Kruddel-PGOKruddel-PGO Posts: 24 ✭✭

    Its good to see clarification of what will happen if someone engages in really bad abuse and gets banned from Wayfarer until 2034. And then wants to still review and comes back and does a really good job until 2035. That they won't get the past 10 year ban removed from their record.

  • TrevorAlan-PGOTrevorAlan-PGO Posts: 990 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah, like it's unfair to randomly punish people, when there is no proof of intent. (unless niantic was to specifically look for those who only reject things or have a high ratio of rejections).

    I think my suggestion would be the way to go? IDK if there could be any other solution.

  • Robert4444-INGRobert4444-ING Posts: 812 ✭✭✭✭

    I would like to know what the plans are for the whole tons of coal that entered the base in recent months.

  • RyuuVanDraco-PGORyuuVanDraco-PGO Posts: 159 ✭✭✭

    Welcome real life. Not knowing something doesn't prevent you from facing consequences.

    They take the test and are being asked to take a look at the rules. They have been lazy and didn't do that? Well, their fault. I as someone who followed the rules am not supposed to face consequnces for their doings you know?

    I have to deal with stuff like that for years by now. I could have been done with this place years ago and helped another place which needs help. Yet hundreds of people like that prevent me from progressing.

  • Robert4444-INGRobert4444-ING Posts: 812 ✭✭✭✭

    So far, every piece of junk added by scammers is going in. Removal is almost impossible. Even if it is effective, another one enters in its place. Immediately. On forums and discord channels, abusers of the system laugh and "wait for steps from Niantic", which are not there. "If needed, I have several +40 accounts in PoGo". Unfortunately, but you are no longer able to fix it in any way.

  • The26thDoctor-PGOThe26thDoctor-PGO Posts: 4,250 ✭✭✭✭✭





    That was a nice word :)

  • RyuuVanDraco-PGORyuuVanDraco-PGO Posts: 159 ✭✭✭
    edited September 15

    Happy for you that you are ok with a 1/10 acceptance rate :)

    but the process was so slow and convoluted, a lot of time making no sense that they gave up pretty quickly.

    And you know why? Because people have to re-submit their dozen of rejected submissions again and again and again and again and again and again and again, clogging the system, because of those who make their own rules or such who are lazy to read them (which takes 2 minutes) as they are told to . And because of such submitting coal because they don't know the rules. :)

    But hey, keep ignoring reality and protect the offenders if that is your way to go.

  • Elijustrying-INGElijustrying-ING Posts: 4,816 Ambassador

    I appreciate that there will be all sorts of questions out of this post. However the wayfarer team is not available immediately to answer them. So feel free to raise points you want clarified but don’t expect a quick response.

  • RandomExploit-INGRandomExploit-ING Posts: 895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It gives a framework for punishing the most obvious abuses of fake nominations and voting cabals that some countries see but I doubt it will do anything to help the average submitter who gets everything badly rejected by pedantic reviewers.

    As for add ons and other ways of accessing wayfarer being punishable, there are plenty of examples of people using add ons on this forum. They are often the same people that like to reject everything but suspect they will be allowed to continue rejecting and using add ons against these rules...

    You can see all the people afriad of being punished for bad rejections by all the down votes given to those posts suggesting you act on bad rejections. Parodying their ill voting tendencies via the forum 😉

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