New Wayfarer Abuse Enforcement Ladder Policy - Discussion

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  • MargariteDVille-INGMargariteDVille-ING Posts: 2,550 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Note that a ban is on a PERSON. Opening up another account to continue abusing the system is THEFT OF SERVICES. Maybe AI can detect repeat offenders.

    Remember when we'd get nominations with 2 or 3 (seemingly random) initials at the end of the description? Surely those are filtered out by now. And photoshopped pictures. Maybe photos that all have the same dog or stuffed animal or some kind of pattern.

    Niantic seems to want to protect their database, and we know they use AI... if we then make the leap in logic that they want to be a real company and use software like normal places (*)... - they are probably using AI to address abuse.


    (*) sending out hundreds of thousands of lying emails makes it seem like they do not want to be a real company or use software like normal places (IE since December 2021 we've been told we can see our edits on the Contribution page)

  • RyuuVanDraco-PGORyuuVanDraco-PGO Posts: 147 ✭✭✭

    Someone had to call out and trigger those who love to make their own rules, support the lazy, submit coal, are faker, botters, etc. and it worked. Everyone who disagrees that people should use the system accordingly is usually one of them. Probably they are all afraid they lose access. :'D

  • DLuarcaOmega-PGODLuarcaOmega-PGO Posts: 51 ✭✭

    Ignorantia juris non excusat, Ignorance of the law, is no excuse. We all are recommended and pushed to read the community criteria aclarations, but many peopple says: "I didn't agree, so my criteria comes first". Or the recent problem of the german botnet... These are examples of why the team has to take this step up to prevent the trash aproved and good propossals rejected. I think too that wayfarer must to upgrade the system to becoma a wayfarerer and make a rexamination time to time for all, including updated criteria.

  • Hosette-INGHosette-ING Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One way that I always evaluate rules changes is to think about what a bad actor would do in the face of these changes. In this case the answer seems obvious to me.

    As others have said I hope that this punishment extends to all accounts owned by an individual. Technically having multiple accounts for the same game is a de facto violation of the terms of service but we all know that multi-accounting is rampant in Pokemon Go. If the punishment only extends to the account that is directly involved then you've just created more of an incentive to spin up lots of throwaway accounts for abuse purposes. There's a clear track record of this with Ingress spoofers... people just start up a new account or buy one to spoof and their main account suffers no consequences.

  • SethMizudori-PGOSethMizudori-PGO Posts: 278 ✭✭✭

    rather there should be a way to report random rejection reasons deployed

  • SethMizudori-PGOSethMizudori-PGO Posts: 278 ✭✭✭

    More effective use of Appeal resolution in the education of abusive reviewing.

  • SethMizudori-PGOSethMizudori-PGO Posts: 278 ✭✭✭
  • SethMizudori-PGOSethMizudori-PGO Posts: 278 ✭✭✭

    People who are proud of duplicate accounts for various reasons are loud, even in their discontent for getting a duplicate account locked.

  • RandomExploit-INGRandomExploit-ING Posts: 829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why would AI be needed to scan the forum?

    Niantic staff have read and replied to some of the posts where people talk about using add ons. No special technology needed, just the same eyes that read those posts. SMH

  • xLilPoundcake-PGOxLilPoundcake-PGO Posts: 74 ✭✭✭

    This may be a dumb question, but does using IITC fall under this criteria?

  • SethMizudori-PGOSethMizudori-PGO Posts: 278 ✭✭✭

    should... enforcement...


    ""As for add ons and other ways of accessing wayfarer being punishable, there are plenty of examples of people using add ons on this forum. ""

  • ROCKETEK16-INGROCKETEK16-ING Posts: 33 ✭✭
    edited September 16

    Do you have any data (from a survey or so) which supports your claim? In my local community (~2500 active players/Wayfinders) it is the complete opposite. By the way, most of them stopped submitting and/or reviewing Wayspots.

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