Having The Wayspot On The Perimiter Gate Rather Than The Building Itself
To long, didn't read: how far is too far away from the building?
Okay, I really want to get this building into the game but the trouble is it's owned by Camellia plc (a private business who doesn't let people get up close). I understand a Wayspot can be accessible to even just one lone player and still be valid, as long as it's not on private residential property (which this isn't).
I want to have the Wayspot at the gates to the estate (where the public footpath is) because if the Wayspot is on the building itself, members of the public won't be able to reach it without trespassing. This building is really historically significant, possibly even of national importance.
Lack of space to write an adequate description is really making me angry because there's so much history here!!!! Should have posted that question in AMA.
Here is where the marker is in relation to the building:
On Google maps:
There is precedent for having a Wayspot at the entrance gates to a building, as seen with my earlier submission (and you can see where I poked the camera through the gates):
Ingress Intel Map link for Stonarce Wayspot:
We see this again with the Archbishop's Palace Wayspot, which is on the perimeter path instead of on the building itself:
So my question is: How far is too far from the main building?
Somebody is likely to move my marker, aren't they? That's a ridiculously long drive way after all.
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In terms of location accuracy, the house is not located at the gate. Purposefully pinning something where it doesn't exist is a misrepresentation. In my opinion a nomination for a building should be at the entrance of the building itself, as that is generally the best representation of the building and the photo that is usually attached to it.
That Linton Park building looks quite cool, if you can get closer and get a better photo of the whole building, that would be good too. The Wikipedia article suggests that there are some walking paths through the gardens, so it might be entirely possible.
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tl;dr: Having the wayspot at the gates isn't "disallowed". But a pic of a sign at the gates would be much preferred.
Longer version, reviewers are now long-wary of "shenanigans", and if your photo doesn't match the location, it likely will either be rejected for a mismatched location, or "helpful" reviewers will move the pin for you.
I think their response is pretty on.
Knowing the issue, as a reviewer I would probably mark it 3 or 4* for location, but not move it. I understand many people would. I also assume the estate gates aren't photogenic enough to include? Those could have been nominated but with the building in the background. I assume you're already check for a historic marker on the gates, as well.
The gates are modern, not historic. They are automatic gates. There's no sign saying "this is Linton Park", only signs saying it's private property and to "keep out".
If those "keep out" signs are readable via Street View imagery, you're going to have an even harder time getting this nomination to pass, as too many reviewers will interpret those as PRP regardless of any clarifications you may have made in your Supporting text.
There is no Google Street View as it's an extremely rural area. I have linked to the website of the business which owns the estate. It's really unfortunate that members of the public aren't a allowed in because the gardens also appear to contain several points of interest themselves.
In terms of location accuracy, the house is not located at the gate. Purposefully pinning something where it doesn't exist is a misrepresentation. In my opinion a nomination for a building should be at the entrance of the building itself, as that is generally the best representation of the building and the photo that is usually attached to it.
That Linton Park building looks quite cool, if you can get closer and get a better photo of the whole building, that would be good too. The Wikipedia article suggests that there are some walking paths through the gardens, so it might be entirely possible.
The Pin should be on the POI, in this case the building. Otherwise you are just nominating the gate, which isn't relevant.
Yeah, I'll have another look another day. I've decided that I want to make sure I can get the nearby trail marker accepted and voted (to make the gym) on before re-submitting Linton Park. I want to avoid having a gym that's potentially inaccessible to me.
The gates aren't the house, so in terms of location accuracy, it's total mislocation. From what I understand, there are public footpaths that go through the gardens of the building, so perhaps using one of those would be more beneficial for players that want to interact with the wayspot?
The southern public footpath goes close to the lake but again not really close to the estate. I could have a look as I should really venture down as far as there as Google Street View is showing a possible King Edward VII wall box along the main road near the southern footpath. If nothing else, I'd get to nominate a rare post box.
The Wayspot should correspond to its physical structure or a proxy for the wayspot.
In this instance, if it came up in review, I would move the marker to the building.