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Religious shrines/statues in private property
Amarellus-PGO
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Here in Colombia a lot of people place religious imagery in their property that's meant to be visible from the sidewalk. That's the whole point of placing it there. Would these be valid waypoints to consider? This here's an example of one. Some others are firmly located inside private property, but they're still facing the sidewalk so people can salute it or whatever.
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TheFarix-PGO
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If they are on private residential property (including being attached to a fence or security/privacy wall), they are not eligible and are one of the few things that are removed if it happens to be approved.
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If they are on private residential property (including being attached to a fence or security/privacy wall), they are not eligible and are one of the few things that are removed if it happens to be approved.
Basically this entire paragraph. Don't think there is anything else that can be said.
What about graffiti on their wall? Every graffiti is on somebody's private property...
Generic graffiti isn't eligible, is it? I thought it was only murals or other art mediums that were allowed, providing they're not on PRP/K12?
This looks more like an initial entrance display for a community that was designed to be there. The art on the statue is allowed and often done to preserve and refresh the appearance of the statues due to the natural weather elements for being constantly outside. The statue still is likely to remain for the foreseeable future. It would be a Painted Statue either way. Wear and tear on the concrete walls suggests it has been there a long time and will be there a long time. Entrances to communities are technically public property to the community. A satellite view is needed to decide as based on the appearance it should be in satellite view to confirm the location.
"Please be sure to closely review nominations whose real-world location appears to be within 40 meters of private, single-family residential property, and nominations whose real-world location appears to be in a neighborhood park. To be clear, nominations should be rejected if their real-world location appears to be on private, single-family residential property or might encourage people to go onto private property (e.g., because the real-world location is at the end of a private driveway)."
Measure from the end of the driveway to the submission, it's most likely eligible to be a wayspot.
Here is some good information on entrance signs and wayfinding signs. https://www.siteessentialscompany.com/signage-improves-communities/
Here's a question i have a question, what if the statue is in the sidewalk is it also ineligible?
The end of the driveway would be where the driveway to the road meets to me. It would depend how far away from the closest PRP driveway it is. hence why satellite view is required.
No. It's been discussed time and time again, if this is on private residential property as OP is suggesting, it is not a valid Wayspot.
If a statue is on the sidewalk its eligible
If the statue is next to the sidewalk, but on PRP its ineligible.
There is no leeway on any possible granted access to touch/walk to the statue that the home owner may have given or any particular state/country laws.
Niantics stance is that if it is on PRP, even if it is accessible from the sidewalk, it is still invalid.
If LFL put up by people in front of their houses aren't eligible, then religious displays put up by people in front of their houses shouldn't be either.
If it's not on or put up by someone for their single family unit residential property though, should be fine.
LFL within 40m of a private single residential property driveway is not valid. Just to be clear.
Not acceptable: Mounted or free-standing murals, paintings, fountains, sculptures, etc. on or within 40 meters of private residences.
It's not like this needs to be asked...
Many often forget:
As well as privately owned commercial property - eligible
Hi folks,
If a work of art, statue, etc. is on private property, it is ineligible. This includes if it's attached to a fence, wall, etc.
That would invalidate a large portion of graffitis/streetArt wayposts...
That has been Niantic's position for a very long time. Anything on private residential property is invalid. But many people simply don't want to accept that leading to it and pedestrian access netting me the most disagreements.
@NianticCasey-ING The entrance to a community is typically public property. The community association typically owns this area not the private residential property owners.
This thread has nothing to do with community entrance areas; the statue in the first post is on private property but visible from a public sidewalk. That's a whole different issue.
Actually it appears to be a community entrance. No satellite view of the area in question was provided. Only a picture of the object itself. So it could be at the entrance of a community which is public property people mistake entrances to community as private property. Clarification on this area needs to occur because their is no guidance for Pokémon Go players on it. (Previous guidance was in Candidate action guide in OPR that was available to ingress players only.)
Here in Colombia a lot of people place religious imagery in their property that's meant to be visible from the sidewalk.
The first post literally explains that it is on private property and not a community entrance.
Clarification has been made many times and is available to everyone, not just the the Ingress community.
I am aware. But the location doesn't change I am talking about for clarification. Some people assume the first property of a community is owned by the first resident. But the first location of the community is owned by the community. It is where community signs and other decorative things for the community exists. This area needs to be defined by Niantic so that all players are made aware these areas are X by Niantic and deemed eligible/ineligible by Niantic.
As stated earlier, this thread has nothing to do with a community entrance. This was specifically about something on private property that could be viewed from the sidewalk.
People are allowed to ask additional questions to the same topic. Discussion is on Private residential property. A clarification to explain what private residential property is for community's is very important. As these areas suggested are public property that are assumed as private residential property.
Hi folks,
Let's keep things respectful please! As I previously mentioned, private residential property is 100% ineligible. The entrance to a private community (i.e. a gated community or something similar) is different in that it's not necessarily owned by an individual. That being said, you can still violate local laws if you attempt to access the Wayspot.
In this case, I would say that something like this would be acceptable, if its accessible without entering a restricted area, is uniquely decorated, or is an otherwise a notable monument.
Thanks @NianticCasey-ING for making a decision on this.
It wasn't just for gated communities. It was suggested for all residential communities that have unique entrances and structures. Because those entrances are public area to a community not private area to an individual. Yes at a gated community you can break laws for loitering/trespassing which was implied by casey. But entrances are still allowed to have people at it as a public community gathering place.
Wayspot can be approved if you can access without being in a restricted location to the community and is uniquely decorated or is a notable monument.
This had nothing to do with gated communities, but an object that was attracted to a fence surrounding a single family home. Why you even brought up gated communities in a clarification that had absolutely nothing to do with gated communities is beyond me. Niantic has been consistent on the matter that anything on or attached to fence surrounding a single family home is still part of the private residential property. Your comments did noting but to distract and confuse @NianticCasey-ING about what was being asked for clarification.
I never said anything specifically about gated communities, please check you facts. I suggested all community entrances as they are community property that are often mistaken by reviewers as private property. Casey implied gated communities because their is a potential risk with loitering/trespassing if a community is restricted to only the community. But casey also confirmed at the end that if it is uniquely decorative or a monument for the community entrance than it would be allowed. It was clear what the response was towards my responses and questions. My comments didn't confuse anyone because I was clear in my responses on what I was talking about. Even included a link to support community entrances and how they help bring the community to those types of communities.