Is it possible to move a POI from one S2 cell to adjacent S2 cell?
I'm a PoGo player and after reaching level 40 recently I had submitted a bunch of nominations without realizing the S2 cell criteria. One of my upgraded nomination got accepted but it did not appear in PoGo. After posting in the forum I came to know that it is within a S2 cell when there is already a POI. So it is visible in Ingress but not in PoGo which I've confirmed.
My accepted nomination is a big auditorium building which lies in multiple S2 cells. Unfortunately, I submitted it **** location close to existing Pokestop. If I resubmit it with same name and with a new location around this auditorium, it will be rejected as a duplicate (someone in the forum told so).
I really want this POI in the game as it is a very busy place and very popular with the students in the University. I do not want to fake it with another name. Would it make sense to make an appeal to move its location by just a few meters around this auditorium. The place around it is a grassy lot with benches. So, it still fulfills the wayspot acceptance criteria.
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It is possible in the game, if the location needs to get moved under 10 meters. In this forum, you can also appeal a edit, if your ingame edit got rejected (with screenshot of the mail). All edits over 10 meters need to get appealed via this form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeXTFKKkhHmapgsLN7VuhKHkT7qWj9bJjH9I2UWPf2qwo20UQ/viewform?entry.1915069305=Location+Edits+over+10m . If both locations are right, there is no point in trying to edit via the form/in the forum. NNia is not changing locations because of s2 cells. Only the ingame edits would be possible in this case. (for this on the image, the three dots in the top right corner, edit PokeStop location) Sometimes the three dots are not visible, then you have to go back on the overworld and try it again.
Not recommended. Assuming that you chose the best location that represents the auditorium when you submitted your nomination, what you are attempting is to degrade the POI.
Excuse me, but if the POI is a building it can move the location indication to any location where the building is.
If you resubmit it, it the previous POI that is Ingress only will appear on the "Nearby" map so it is likely you new submission will be marked as a "Duplicate".
No. There is a point where there is 'a most appropriate location', as described in the criteria. If the original location properly represents the building, moving it is unnecessary, and may be considered as abuse.
Abuse is that you move the location of the indication away, as I said, a building has large dimensions, if the POI is inside the building it is valid, that's what the Niantic rules are for.
From the November AMA:
How close to the actual object or location should the pin be dropped in the nomination?
Since the main goal for Niantic apps, and therefore what the Wayspots should facilitate, is to explore and discover new locations around you, the marker pin should be on top of the object nominated. Submitters can verify the location selected before they submit the nomination but purposely moving the pin to manipulate a specific app’s gameboard is not allowed.
And:
Can you explain what “providing an advantage to a single player/collective group” means?
We definitely understand that there are some strategically placed Wayspots that are critical for competitive play in Niantic apps, including areas that have restricted or limited access. This doesn’t apply to those locations. This guideline is about curbing abuse by Explorers who are attempting to make their Niantic app of choice easier to play by submitting fake or misleading nominations. In general, follow the criteria and help your fellow player explore interesting real-world locations in your cities and you should be fine.
And lastly, from @NianticCasey-ING in another topic about moving a Wasypot just so it will show up in in a specific game:
The location of the pin should accurately reflect the Wayspot's location in the real-world, regardless of whether it has converted into the desired in-app location or not.
[L]ocation changes should only be submitted to make the marker more accurate or if the marker were to be closer to a logical point of discovery representing a larger location (e.g. a welcome sign for a large park).
As I said, a building has large dimensions and the pin must be above that point, of course taking into account the security and access criteria.
Did you not get the hint? Niantic doesn't want you to move Wayspot just so they will appear in a specific game and they have called such actions abuse.
What time did I say it is to move the point so that the indication appears in any game?
Thank you for this, precisely what my words are based on.
For this, the original answer to your question is that you should not move the marker to any place of the building if it degrades the quality of the POI in question. The main thread and your words combined suggests such behavior. Even if appearance in specific games are out of the matter, POIs are not supposed to move anywhere within the building, it should be right on where it most well describes it.
I was looking for the answer to this and I’m glad I came across this. I agree with both sides but I agree with OP more. To me, abuse is when you move a stop to somewhere that may not accurately fit the location. Like yeah I know the object is here but this grassy area nearby is close enough. That’s manipulating the board IMO. As OP said, the building itself is quite large, being brought to the building itself should be the objective of the stop. If OP had submitted the stop in the desired location with knowledge of s2 cells at the time it wouldn’t have been a big deal. The best location for a poi, especially a large one is subjective in itself. Not everyone is trying to game the system and just because we’re reviewers doesn’t mean we need to be a stick in the mud. I don’t see this as unreasonable and ppl do much worse to get around the rules in place
There is a most logical best location for each buildings. It can be the center of the building, the entrance, somewhere where the pin represents the best of the building, etc. If cells are to be considered, why bother? Place the pin in an empty cell and that's it. Someone more concerned can later move the pin to where it best represents it.
On the other hand, moving the pin out of where it best represents the building in question is degrading the POI. Especially if the reason is for S2 cells and pokestops, that is clear abuse of the system. Yes, I also see this problem as minor issues and won't bother unless mass POIs are moved intentionally. However, it still is an abuse, and hope it won't happen in mass quantities.