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More clarification for Hotels

Hello. This question might be duplicate to another threads in this forum, but I would ask it again since the answers in those threads got twisted:

This nomination shows a hotel (or a sign, I don't know which one this submitter referring to). I found this hotel is visually distinct, but the submitter already failed to explain its value in supporting information; just saying: "Please help to build this portal, this portal is not a generic business, so please help to build this portal as this is included to name sign, thank you".

As in the "Bar and Pubs" thread, if a business is not a part of chain business, then it should not considered as generic business, but I don't know if this also applies to the hotel, as this hotel is not a part of chain business. Additionally, this hotel is part-sponsorship with RedDoorz (as shown in the photo). I've also did some research of this hotel in Google and found it's one of recommended hotel in that area based from local travel sites like pegipegi, Traveloka, agoda, etc. But there's no information about history of this hotel itself.

As hotels are part of tourists accomodation, my questions:

1. Should hotel, as long as it's not part of chain business, it considered to be eligible Wayspot?

2. Is generic chain business clause also applied to part-sponsorship business?

3. Should any object lies on the grounds of hotel (fountains, statues, etc.) eligible too?

Thank you.

(Additional notes to Niantic: there's should be a guide to what should be written at supporting information and what shouldn't, as supporting information just saying to "accept this nomination no matter what" hurts me a lot.)


  • Senmana-INGSenmana-ING Posts: 129 ✭✭✭✭

    Hotels, same as other businesses such as cafes, restaurants, pubs, bars, shops etc, need to have historical/cultural significance to avoid being rejected for generic business. Perhaps it's won various awards, or a historical event happened there, or it's a popular wedding/events venue with function rooms for hire.

    Having unique architecture could also get it approved. So a hotel built by a famous architect, or that has some unique stonework, could be a good nomination.

    Chain hotels are likely to be rejected.

    I believe objects on the grounds of a hotel can be approved if they meet criteria, statues, gazebos and fountains with pedestrian access are great nominations as long as they're not mass produced (e.g. a statue bought from a garden centre)

    Niantic have mentioned in the recent clarification what the supporting statement should be used for

    Supporting descriptions

    Utilize the supporting description to add additional information that may be useful to the reviewers. Avoid directing, pleading or begging reviewers to vote in a specific way as this is considered abuse of the Wayfarer system and could result in your account suspension.

    But many submitters won't have seen that, and it would be useful to have this text on the nomination page rather than hidden under Wayfarer Help.

  • TheFarix-PGOTheFarix-PGO Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The previous Candidate Action Guide originally listed Hotels/Inns as reject unless they were historically or culturally significant. What you describe indicates that it is neither of those requirements. Also, the sign itself appears to lack pedestrian access because it is on the side of a road with no sidewalk or other pedestrian path in front of it.

  • NorthSeaPoet-INGNorthSeaPoet-ING Posts: 895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2020

    Hotels need to have the cultural/historic or unique architecture criteria met in order to be eligible. However, if a hotel has a public bar/pub, that could be eligible instead since it would likely meet the community meeting point criteria.

  • JSteve0-INGJSteve0-ING Posts: 516 ✭✭✭✭


    The bar would have to have some historical, cultural or artistic value...

  • Senmana-INGSenmana-ING Posts: 129 ✭✭✭✭

    Agree that if there's nothing to sell about a hotel, if it has a bar/pub it may stand a better chance, especially if it's open to non-guests and has a seperate entrance. It's not a dead cert, but could be something to try.

  • NorthSeaPoet-INGNorthSeaPoet-ING Posts: 895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pubs and bars can bet through on community meeting point if they're allowed to be used by the public as well.

    There's three hotels in my town with public bars - the bars themselves have been approved, two of which did have the historic element to them, the third was literally a brand new pub and was approved due to being a community meeting point.

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