Nomination rejected - France
DarrenLilsham-PGO
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Hi everyone, ans sorry for my english....
I submitted a Menhir, it's a lifted stone, it's something historical in certains regions of my country, and it has been rejected.
It is near a path, the road has been cut and closed recently, but niantic don't give me any reason why it was rejected in the mail I received. My team for raids told me they find it acceptable, so, can you help me understand ?
Thx !
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It looks to be at the boundary of a Private House, probably at the corner of the drive where it comes out on the road. This location should be classed as "Private Residential Property" and rejected, so it appears the reviewers in your area are following the guidelines correctly. If you could post your supporting photo or a location we might be able to see more.
I think I would rate it 1* also for, 'doesn't meet acceptance criteria' since it cannot be seen that this really has a historical function. Maybe it's in your supporting information, but If you could send a screen, we could verify that.
Rocks are common natural features. It would be ridiculous if every single rock in the world was accepted.
here's the location. It's not in a private place, it's in public path, you can see a "plaque" sorry i don't know the word in english, it is used by the gas company to mark the manhole just in front of the menhir :
no. Menhirs ARE NOT common features. they all disapeared with time and the hand of men...
Agree that Menhirs are not common, if it were in a field with a sign it would be an acceptable nomination. However, as I thought, this menhir is on the property line of a house and must therefore be given a "PRP - Private Residence" rating.
ok, i still don't anderstand why you think that, because it is near the border of a private house, it can't be acceptable.
so explain me why the painting on the wall of the house in this situation, is acceptable. What's the difference between the wall of a private house, and the border of a path :
https://wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/criteria#acceptance it's Niantic itself who say it's acceptable.
I'm very lost AND confused.
Paintings on the walls of private houses are not acceptable either.
So why did niantic valide many ? I have met many of them accros my city (2.5 millions habitants, Lyon, France)
Niantic doesn't validate things, reviewers do. They don't always follow the rules, and the rules change over time.
I am very new to this and I don't get the rejection due to the menhir being close to the private property border. On the picture it is visible that the bushes are the fence which marks the end of the private property and the menhir is outside that fence hence it is located on the publicly accessible pedestrian sidewalk.
When I traveled to Romania I have seen existing pokestops (in small towns) which were water wells outside privet single family residential houses. They were placed exactly as the manhir outside the fence but very close to it. So is this a valid rejection criteria?
I would've given this a rejection as well, either as PRP or natural feature.
1) Just because it happens to be right on the outside of the hedge doesn't mean it isn't PRP. Anything near the edge of a wall (or wall-like structure) is still part of the property, no matter if it's on top of it, hanging from it, or bordering it.
2) You can jump up and down that it's a menhir, but foreigners like myself don't know how to see the difference between this (apparently) historically important landmark and a common boulder. As long as i don't see a nice little sign or plaque telling me that it's truly an important piece of history, i'm not going to take that risk.
Also @LamuZmeisko-PGO, yes those would be considered rejectable. But they may have been nominated in the early days when the criteria weren't really fleshed out yet. That's why you should never take existing stops/portals as examples.
For Wayfarer, Niantic has defined private property as extending from the structure to the street, even if sidewalk is public property. This is done to avoid people congregating in front of a home and to create a standard definition.