Noticeboards in supermarkets
NorthSeaPoet-ING
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In the UK, noticeboards are generally an okay thing to sub due to community relevance for the area they're in.
I was wondering g what Niantic's stance is on noticeboards inside a supermarket?
In my town, we have two supermarkets, both with noticeboards inside that focus on advertising and informing people of upcoming local events, local groups, and so on rather than promoting anything that's happening in store.
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Senmana-ING
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I like noticeboards, I always read them when I pass, take photos of events I'd be interested in, and it does help me to socialise and learn more about the area. And I bet they're even more valuable to people who aren't on the internet as much as me.
I think those in a Supermarket will likely be rejected in the same way playgrounds attached to a generic chain business should be. But I still like them 🙈
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GearGlider-ING
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@NicoSolheim-ING from the January 2019 AMA
Q25: In the UK we have "Community Notice Boards" in residential areas, often maintained by the parish or district council or the residents' association. I think these make good portals but that's a heavily debated topic on the OPR chat and about half the notice boards I submit get approved. Does NIA think these are eligible to become portals?
A25: They do hold the function of being community gathering places. But like many things, it is likely to be very situational. They should follow the same guidelines as the Little Free Libraries.
I personally think they make good Wayspots. A lot of information about local community events get posted on them.
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Dice3423-ING
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They should be valid in my opinion. They aren't pretty, which is your problem when submitting. It may take a few tries on some submissions. But expressing information is educational should help. I am working on Mall Directory. They are a map for a mall that is used by the community to navigate malls. I have had them approved in Disney World and I have seen them approved at Colleges. Malls for some strange reason are a rejection. Yet a map at a park is allowed. People need to stop rushing during reviews and really think about what the candidate is and does for the community.
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GearGlider-ING
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@bobofango-ING you should check out the post linked below.
With LFL guidance being Eligible unless in banned areas like PRP or Schools.
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NianticCasey-ING
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Hey folks, I'm in agreement with @AdamSkot-PGO@adetia9-PGO here. Freestanding, outdoor community notice boards seem to me to fall within the 'community gathering' criteria, but a noticeboard within a supermarket doesn't seem to be as notable a location for gathering or distinguishable from the rest of the market.
I do see what @grendelwulf-ING is saying in that POIs should be unique and interesting, but agree with @Theisman-ING that not everything is interesting to everyone. We shouldn't be reviewing as if we were writing a vacation guide 😉
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GearGlider-ING
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This is one of the Community Bulletins in a local grocery near me. It's community focused and lots of flyers about local events going on in the town. It's the kind of bulletin I think would make a good example.
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Oh god no, please no. Community Noticeboards are some of the worst examples of accepted points of interest. I work in a supermarket and wouldn’t consider submitting the noticeboard inside for a work portal
@YouLostAStar-ING I'm just curious to as what Niantic's ruling on them are in supermarkets, because I do see the odd one pop up in Wayfarer and I'm never entirely sure if I'm supposed to reject it based on generic business or not, so I tend to skip them 😅
Plus I got a response from you, so that's a bonus 😂
I like noticeboards, I always read them when I pass, take photos of events I'd be interested in, and it does help me to socialise and learn more about the area. And I bet they're even more valuable to people who aren't on the internet as much as me.
I think those in a Supermarket will likely be rejected in the same way playgrounds attached to a generic chain business should be. But I still like them 🙈
Information is educational. It meets criteria.
@NicoSolheim-ING from the January 2019 AMA
Q25: In the UK we have "Community Notice Boards" in residential areas, often maintained by the parish or district council or the residents' association. I think these make good portals but that's a heavily debated topic on the OPR chat and about half the notice boards I submit get approved. Does NIA think these are eligible to become portals?
A25: They do hold the function of being community gathering places. But like many things, it is likely to be very situational. They should follow the same guidelines as the Little Free Libraries.
I personally think they make good Wayspots. A lot of information about local community events get posted on them.
@GearGlider-PGO One of the few times we have agreed. Thanks.
@NicoSolheim-ING Supermarkets are a business and allowed indoor submissions.
Per the January 2020 update.
Indoor Wayspots
Visually unique is it is different than other portals nearby. You don't want the same picture like trail markers that are hard to compare to other wayspots.
@Gabriel0322-PGO The two supermarket noticeboards in my town are both distinctly different to each other and don't have any noticeboards nearby that look anywhere near what they look like. One is inside a Tesco, and the other is inside a Morrisons
They should be valid in my opinion. They aren't pretty, which is your problem when submitting. It may take a few tries on some submissions. But expressing information is educational should help. I am working on Mall Directory. They are a map for a mall that is used by the community to navigate malls. I have had them approved in Disney World and I have seen them approved at Colleges. Malls for some strange reason are a rejection. Yet a map at a park is allowed. People need to stop rushing during reviews and really think about what the candidate is and does for the community.
A community notice board isn't really the same thing as a board in a grocery store however.
I see a community notice board looking far more like this:
I rate community noticeboards/infoboards like this positively (and have submitted the one above), but I'm not sure I would rate a simple bulletin board in a grocery store favourably - so far it hasn't come up in local reviewing. Its an interesting conversation to be sure.
I'm happy to accept village noticeboards etc., but I confess to being unsure and uneasy on supermarket community boards - they're often half filled with adverts for what the supermarket does towards the community rather than real community information.
Until Niantic states very clearly whether or not to accept these, I am in favor of REJECTING them on the basis of not being visually unique nor significant to the community.
@bobofango-ING you should check out the post linked below.
With LFL guidance being Eligible unless in banned areas like PRP or Schools.
Nah. Those are too boring. Poi is supposed to be a point of interest. Would you show a friend visiting from out of town a supermarket corkboard?
Not everyone is on vacation. Portals can be used by the local community too. Would locals go to a noticeboard at a grocery store, yes they can and do.
No I personally wouldn't, but then again I also wouldn't take my friends to show them a child's playground, where as other younger or older players may visit playgrounds noticeboards etc.
One one person views as boring another views as interesting
Hey folks, I'm in agreement with @AdamSkot-PGO@adetia9-PGO here. Freestanding, outdoor community notice boards seem to me to fall within the 'community gathering' criteria, but a noticeboard within a supermarket doesn't seem to be as notable a location for gathering or distinguishable from the rest of the market.
I do see what @grendelwulf-ING is saying in that POIs should be unique and interesting, but agree with @Theisman-ING that not everything is interesting to everyone. We shouldn't be reviewing as if we were writing a vacation guide 😉
My local supermarket has a large very well used and informative notice board would this be accepted @NianticCasey-ING ???
As you can see there is lots of information for the community and there is 4 boards like this all full. Not saying I would submit all 4 just it should be accepted right?
@grendelwulf-ING that whole "would you show your friend this" doesnt really worm for almost all pois, play parks are a good example, if i showed my friend visiting from out of town a play park, hed be phoning the police on me haha
But you would take your children there. It's a destination. A supermarket corkboard is just something most people shuffle past without even noticing or caring about after checking out their groceries.
I use my store's all the time to figure out what is going around town. Local performances, holiday events or social gatherings, etc.
But Casey has spoken so I guess none of that matters now.
yeah, most of the boards in supermarkets just have coupons or recall notices tacked onto them. I suppose every area is different, but around here no one posts community events, etc in supermarkets. There are actual community boards that exist for that.
Looks like Casey says it's ineligible, but I imagine people are still going to try and argue for their acceptance 😁
I'd probably actually go for that particular one you have shown above in the supermarket. That isn't a simple corkboard. Part of Wayfarer's blessing and curse is you have to be able to use some amount of interpretation.
when i think of simple corkboard, i think of something like this: (which, coincidentally, while it isnt my local supermarket, is similar to what our grocery store ones usually look like) and these I would definitely NOT vote fabourably as being notable or significant in any way.
This is one of the Community Bulletins in a local grocery near me. It's community focused and lots of flyers about local events going on in the town. It's the kind of bulletin I think would make a good example.
What was the title and description? Thats not a community noticeboard but if that was an actual sign for the American Legion and the American Legion wasnt already a Waypoint it may be eligible. Though it may be lacking Ped Access.
The question of a digital noticeboard is different enough from the original question that it might merit its own thread.
Rejection was only historical and cultural rejection. It was named differently not to be considered a normal sign. Noticeboards was in the title.