What to do with a Duplicate, but terrible photo?
Ark4242-PGO
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Probably for the longest time, I didn't really care which option I would have picked, since both are basically a rejection. I've only recently realized that duplicates add the photo to the original, so it seems like you should favor photo-based rejections, then the duplicate button, then other rejection reasons. But, is there any official word on the order one is supposed to follow to review properly?
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And I wonder if you still earn an agreement if you choose duplicate, whereas other reviewers choose terrible photo, or vice versa. Seems unfair to miss agreements when there are two clear rejection alternatives.
That's also a good point, since it seems to track your agreements by all 3 states separately (accept, reject, duplicate), so you probably do miss out if you picked the wrong route in the case of having a bad photo and being a duplicate.
Personally, when it's clearly a duplicate I always press the mark as duplicate button without thinking further.... but now, this makes me question what should I do from now on, not because of the agreements but because of the photo replacement thing...I wasn't aware/didn't know about that...
Thanks for this thread.
I also noticed this recently. I prefer to choose low quality photo.
I would say marking duplicate first. If you reject it for the photo (or whatever), then the submitter is being told to try again. Mark it duplicate and they're told it already exists. Then they either ignore that and stubbornly submit it again, or (hopefully) they get to investigating why they couldn't see the original point. Furthermore, marking duplicate only adds the photo to the existing point. If it's really a bad photo, I wouldn't think it would get the photo votes in the games to make it the primary photo. So, to me, it matters even less.
I see, good point.
I was afraid about the photo replacement thing so I thought maybe I should reconsider before marking as duplicate if the photo was utterly bad. But now I feel relieved knowing I was doing ok.
A duplicate isn't a true rejection and does, as you noted, add the photo to the Wayspot and may appear in Niantic games. If the photo meets rejection criteria (most common being taken from a car) it should be rejected outright and not duplicated.
To the point of trying to teach that submitter about hidden POI that are potential duplicates, don't forget you're also allowing them to think that submitting ineligible photos is acceptable when they truly may not be.
I always choose the duplicate and trust the community to give Iikes to the better photo
So you're ok with the second picture being literally upside down, taken at night in the rain? As long as it's not the most-voted one that appears as the main picture?
I sort of wouldn't mind, if we could thumbs up OR thumbs DOWN all the alternate pictures. Things that get voted down into the negatives could get removed, or sent back through wayfarer reviews to get voted away.
if upside down i'll reject, but other scenarios dupicate it
So this goes back to my original question then. As long as there are some cases where you'd reject first, but other cases where you'd duplicate first.... what is the official word from Niantic on this?
Personally, I go duplicate - as that is what it is.
I'm assuming - if someone know me to be wrong here please enlighten me - that duplicate proposals get recycled for image reviews later incase the duplicate had better pictures.
They do not. If you mark it as a duplicate, the photo will get instantly added to the original POI.
It will get added to the POI but it shouldn't become the main photo. That does open up the opportunity for someone to upvote it.
If it was a mediocre photo I'd choose duplicate. If it was an abysmal photo I'd probably reject it for photo quality and just eat the disagreement. One disagreement won't make a difference to my rating over the long term.
Mostly I’ll choose duplicate unless the photo is really awful
I'd choose duplicate simply because it tells the submitter not to bother trying for again, so hopefully means they don't waste their time or yours again. If the bad picture gets added, the community can fix that later (or maybe it will come up for photo review later too)
So question? So I just reviewed a submission not far from my home but the location is off. Unfortunately, there were like 2 of that same facility on the same road and neither building looked the same as what was in the picture. Although I don't have any submissions available at the moment, if one submitted a duplicate would this ultimately lead to the correct location if the person updates it? I wish there was a way for local people to update or fix the submission.