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@MaxiumPitsSmell-ING I believe that all of the admins on this forum are Niantic employees or contractors. Also, this is an L1 Ingress account that completed training today in the same area where YouTight plays. If I had to guess I'd say it's probably related to this discussion, which is about this removal appeal, which…
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@TWVer-ING I think a chain gym is essentially the same thing as a chain restaurant-- it's not inherently eligible but could be eligible if there's something special about it or it's locally valuable. That is my interpretation of the various things that Niantic has said. Reasonable minds could differ on this interpretation.
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@TWVer-ING Remember that we're talking about chain gyms that are the only ones in a town, not gyms as a general class. I would generally base my decision on how it's presented. If I see a 24-Hour Fitness (massive US chain, maybe non-US too) with the description and supporting info basically saying "It's a gym" then I'm…
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@TWVer-ING Craptacular gym: Half the equipment is broken, it's grungy, the employees are rude... If it's the only gym in town but almost nobody is willing to go there because it's lousy then that doesn't seem like something that would qualify. Sometimes gyms are fronts for money laundering. Basically, if people in the town…
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I still don't think it's a wasted upgrade. The upgrade is intended to get your candidate into and through voting more quickly, and that happened. If you'd known beforehand that Niantic would have grabbed the submission then you wouldn't have upgraded but everyone basically has the same chance at that lottery so it seems…
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@rodensteiner-ING There's no U in Zaragoza. (Sorry, someone had to say it, but I know what you meant.)
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@The26thDoctor-PGO I've seen some pretty craptacular gyms.
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@Nadiwereb-PGO Here's the thing. I currently have 95 upgrades available. If upgrades prevented Niantic from ever reviewing anything I submit then I could easily guarantee that Niantic never reviews my candidates in the future. Players shouldn't have the ability to influence what is and isn't reviewed by Niantic. Niantic is…
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@AlexJ1373-PGO Niantic is definitely remiss in not being clear up front that something you submit MAY become a (pokestop/portal/etc.) but is not guaranteed to appear in any game even if it's accepted. They do say that in the acceptance email but it's easy to overlook. This is what it looks like in Ingress, and I think that…
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@Idaholoser-PGO Perhaps that's the wrong rejection reason but what criterion would a fire hydrant meet?
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@TWVer-ING You make a solid argument, and I think it's more likely that the only gym in a town would be acceptable than the only Starbucks but I think it falls short of being an automatic acceptance.
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@TWVer-ING Thank you for digging out that link. One minor correction: The only gym in town might be an important location to exercise for the local community, but that's not automatic. The submitter still needs to explain to reviewers why it's important, and "the only one in town" may not be enough to meet that bar.…
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@29andCounting-PGO Niantic reviewers are not Niantic saying what is eligible. They are people attempting to follow Niantic's guidelines but because they're human doing an imperfect job of it. If I find one neighborhood entrance sign that was rejected on appeal then what is your opinion?
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You can usually accomplish what you need to by taking a good supporting photo. Turning to the side and photographing a sidewalk is very rarely a useful supporting photo. It's much better to step back and take a broader photo of the area, with the thing you're submitting in it. (I'm ignoring whether a bodega is eligible and…
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One of the things I've encountered recently is basic landscaping being labeled as community gardens. It's one of several cases of people sprinkling magic words into their text to try to push through things that don't qualify.
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When you submit something it's always good to present it in a way that will be understandable to anyone who happens to review it. The range for local reviews extends to over 100km from your current location (and the distance is not fixed, but depends on where you are) so it's not like you can count on the people who review…
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Rejection reasons are inaccurate, and "location inappropriate" has a workflow that causes it to be used in ways that Niantic didn't intend. "Obstructs Emergency Services" is right between "Mismatched Location" and "Pedestrian Access", so it's likely that one was a misclick. Having said that, a Starbucks is almost never…
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I understand your frustration. One of the things that isn't talked about much is that just submitting something that is eligible is often not enough. HOW you present it can make a big difference in whether it's accepted or not. This is especially true for something like a local restaurant where just being a restaurant is…
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@Gazzas89-PGO Interesting. A lot of what I've submitted in the last few years has not been available on street view, usually because it's too new, and I've only had two rejections in the last three years. I can't cite local reviewers for mine because my last non-upgraded submission was in 2019 so they have almost all gone…
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I'm not sure I understand what the issue is. Your submission is being reviewed quickly (presumably) by Niantic, so you got the value of the upgrade. If upgrades prevented things from going into Niantic voting then people could use them to ensure that Niantic wouldn't review specific candidates.
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If that map is accurate then it doesn't matter where the pin is. Why do you ask?
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... you keep a sharp eye out for new murals being painted in your neighborhood and track (I had the S-word that refers to a piece of celery but the forum starred it out) the artists on social media so you know when they're completed. @Siinnie-ING For me Ingress is the 3-hour drive that becomes 10-hours (or 3-days), and…
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I would suggest that the best way to do it now was the best way to do it before: Provide enough supporting information (photos, text, links) to convince reviewers that the object is probably at that location. I saw enough fake photospheres while reviewing that I never treated them as useful information unless they showed…
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@Fredwanzt-PGO What does "I could just send it again, but this will lower my rating" mean?
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@Shilfiell-ING Yes! I've always hated that people were mucking with another company's services (sometimes falsely) just to create wayspots. Keeping the data within Niantic would solve that problem. I still wouldn't consider photospheres trustworthy, obviously.
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@0X00FF00-ING I proposed exactly that-- work through the queue taking the oldest appeal from each person until they get to the end of the queue then repeat that process. This would mean that everyone would get at least one appeal resolved relatively quickly.
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@PeteC303-ING Doing that would slow down the queue by quite a lot, I think, so new submissions would go through much more slowly.
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@Hussain0U0-PGO You can't move it from within Pokemon Go since it doesn't appear there. If the pin is already in a correct location then you generally shouldn't move it because Niantic considers it abuse to move wayspots to manipulate a specific game's board.