You'd be surprised what has been missed, I took a walk 3 weeks ago for 2 hours because I saw a park that wasnt submitted, nor was the play park and the football pitched in it, and on my way there and back, I submitted a further 8 things and noted a further 5 things to submit (though these 5 were in an area thats being constructed, so I wouldn't count those as stuff being missed). Though your way of describing how the submissions should go is, in some cases, how it already is, I visited a zoo last year and submitted stuff, its not been a one in one oit case there, some have went into voting at different times, others waiting in queue
Part of the reason for that people ask for stops is the submission process, I dont know if it still does (I was going g to go check, but stupid bugged game is telling to link an email /Facebook to my game, despite it literally saying underneath its linked to Facebook) but im sure the additional info page says to add why you think your stop should be in, which is why people might say there's not enough stops in the area (again, had to teach someone not to do that as he was going to say that while.submitting stuff in a park)
Curious how you came to that conclusion? AFAIK Casey never disclosed their pro nouns despite being directly asked for them. Aside from that a have very strong reasons to believe Caseys pronouns are not she/her although i could be wrong.
I mean nowadays i wouldn't try and guess any pronouns let alone try and pass it as fact if you don't know for sure. Even if you did know the name, doesn't mean you can assume pronouns.
Thanks for reaching out, @Qwizical-ING! We are currently reviewing the old backlog for locations with a low number of reviewers. Yours will get reviewed too when we eventually get to yours. I appreciate your patience and understanding until then.
We are currently reviewing the old backlog for locations with a low number of reviewers.
My region has relatively high number of reviewers (a dozen active that I regularly talk to) but still have a year + backlog. Do you intend to address these situations, as well?
What is the "ideal" turnaround time Niantic expects for nominations?
Interesting. I wonder if that explains the sudden surge in complaints about "rejection emails with no reasons" - those long-rumored to be the result of reviews made by Niantic.
So you're telling me that living in the 37th most populous city IN THE WORLD isn't enough reviewers to get seen? Shake my head Niantic what kinda dodgy algorithm you got.
With all due respect, Giffard, this isn't fixing the problem.
For comparison, London has a population of about 9 million people. My town has a population of about 35,000 people.
My submissions in my town sail through voting within a week at the most yet @Qwizical-ING's submissions stay in the queue for almost 2 years without budging.
Evidently something is broken in the system because surely by your comment and the implied logic, a smaller population would mean a smaller amount of reviewers. Which would mean that my town should struggle to have nominations seen, whilst anything in London should be seen within a few days of being submitted.
Thus the double-talk. Thank you for calling, today. Your call is important to us! We’ll get to it when we get to it, get it? These are not the droids you are looking for. Move along, move along….
This reminds me a call that I got today at the office:
Hello, I'm calling from ***, you bought a computer a few months ago and we would like to know about your buying experience.
Well, I didn't do the purchase myself so I can't talk about that, but I must tell you that your support has been terrible after that, after an update it didn't boot and we struggled to find the info to fix the problem, calling your support line was waiting for many minutes on hold and then they read the script asking us to do what we had done.
Yeah, sorry. We're aware that there are some issues in support and we must improve that.
For sure, it's really a shame.
Ok, but besides that, Would you like to hear about the new devices that we have?
I've told this a million times: Niantic won't change because people is too hooked. Too hooked to Ingress, too hooked to Pokemon Go, too hooked to Wayfarer. Doesn't matter the terrible experience, the bugs, the lack of acknowledgement of the problems and putting a real effort to fix them.
People keeps on paying, investing huge amounts of time for free, so Niantic won't change, there's no need for them to change and improve anything.
true to that. We shouldnt even try to get Niantic Employees to help us on something. The whole process with their chat-bot system is riduculous. It doesnt even want to connect us to a human beign, because, the human beign wont be able to help at all. We would only set the human beign under stress and get them to give us wrong answers.
in the forums, we do not even know if Casey and Giffard are real persons that have feelings and get payed every month. they could be just someone from accounting, someone from marketing and someone from the call center that copy and paste things here.
it wouldnt make any sense to try to get them to DO something to get us out of this misery, because they are not able to. We have been pouring solutions and ideas in the last 16 month and not even anything has changed to the positive. NIA even does Events that are not thought thru, not based on anything that makes sense with what as an outcome? there are three kids in Novosibirsk that now have 3 more wayspots in front of their concrete bunker, and we not only have a queue that is 2 years long, but now with added 1 year of upgraded queue!
I think that the Niantic team is trying to maintain professional distance with the community (and way overdoing it)... or maybe they think that if they talk too much they'll expose sensitive information that'll lead to manipulation of the system? Either way, it's been doing a TON of harm - for many, many months by now - to morals in the community and Niantic's general image, and it's flabbergasting how they don't seem to have realized it yet.
Surely it can’t be that hard for a company that is not short of money to create a heat map (using our old friend S2 cells) which would show hot areas where time from submission to endpoint is short, down to cold areas where it is long. I wouldn’t count upgrades in the data.
So they know where the submission is, date and time submitted, date and time either rejected or agreed.
That is the basic a few more tweaks could be added. Couldn’t we see that info ?
Bumping this thread up, please can you look into this? specifically the abuse vector problem, this isn't just a case of lack of reviewers, there is a part of east London (UK) that is blackholed and has been for years because of Redacted abuse, and we'd like a resolution now.
Please can you read over the thread and provide an answer for @Qwizical-ING ?
I live in an area where things go through. Quickly. Less than two weeks for non upgraded submissions. Maybe some of the submissions lingering for two years should get thrown my direction. Don't consider them upgrades, but throw them into my voting pool. I'm sure west central Missouri isn't the only location that can help move the queue along.
I would like to report again that since 2020, many requests for wayports in some regions of the city of Fortaleza, Brazil are not even going to evaluation, there is a kind of limbo in some neighborhoods. I cite for example this neighborhood in the coordinates below: Passaré neighborhood, Fortaleza, Brazil
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You'd be surprised what has been missed, I took a walk 3 weeks ago for 2 hours because I saw a park that wasnt submitted, nor was the play park and the football pitched in it, and on my way there and back, I submitted a further 8 things and noted a further 5 things to submit (though these 5 were in an area thats being constructed, so I wouldn't count those as stuff being missed). Though your way of describing how the submissions should go is, in some cases, how it already is, I visited a zoo last year and submitted stuff, its not been a one in one oit case there, some have went into voting at different times, others waiting in queue
Part of the reason for that people ask for stops is the submission process, I dont know if it still does (I was going g to go check, but stupid bugged game is telling to link an email /Facebook to my game, despite it literally saying underneath its linked to Facebook) but im sure the additional info page says to add why you think your stop should be in, which is why people might say there's not enough stops in the area (again, had to teach someone not to do that as he was going to say that while.submitting stuff in a park)
Curious how you came to that conclusion? AFAIK Casey never disclosed their pro nouns despite being directly asked for them. Aside from that a have very strong reasons to believe Caseys pronouns are not she/her although i could be wrong.
Casey is a last name @Roli112-PGO
Can be, but that doesnt change anything for me.
there is more than one Casey first name at niantic, there is only one that I’ve seen with the last name. I could be wrong. If I am. Oh well, lmao
Dislike trolls on the loose, I’ll return the favor to whoever it is
I mean nowadays i wouldn't try and guess any pronouns let alone try and pass it as fact if you don't know for sure. Even if you did know the name, doesn't mean you can assume pronouns.
We’ll see lol what I am saying though is that everyone assumes Casey is a he anyways. How do you or anyone else know Casey isn’t a she? Lmao 🤣
Thanks for reaching out, @Qwizical-ING! We are currently reviewing the old backlog for locations with a low number of reviewers. Yours will get reviewed too when we eventually get to yours. I appreciate your patience and understanding until then.
thank you @NianticGiffard -> It would be a great idea if NIA just would sometimes tell us these things in a Status Update.
Would be nice if they gave us updates in general without needing people complaining
We are currently reviewing the old backlog for locations with a low number of reviewers.
My region has relatively high number of reviewers (a dozen active that I regularly talk to) but still have a year + backlog. Do you intend to address these situations, as well?
What is the "ideal" turnaround time Niantic expects for nominations?
Interesting. I wonder if that explains the sudden surge in complaints about "rejection emails with no reasons" - those long-rumored to be the result of reviews made by Niantic.
So you're telling me that living in the 37th most populous city IN THE WORLD isn't enough reviewers to get seen? Shake my head Niantic what kinda dodgy algorithm you got.
Scratch that, we already know. Abuse vector 🙄
Clearly your city has fewer reviewers than my town! Shocking news indeed!!
With all due respect, Giffard, this isn't fixing the problem.
For comparison, London has a population of about 9 million people. My town has a population of about 35,000 people.
My submissions in my town sail through voting within a week at the most yet @Qwizical-ING's submissions stay in the queue for almost 2 years without budging.
Evidently something is broken in the system because surely by your comment and the implied logic, a smaller population would mean a smaller amount of reviewers. Which would mean that my town should struggle to have nominations seen, whilst anything in London should be seen within a few days of being submitted.
It’s almost like Niantic’s lawyers have instructed employees not to acknowledge any problems until after they have been resolved.
Any other discussion seems to be wrapped in double-speak, and winds up saying nothing meaningful.
Report a bug and they say either THAT shouldn’t be happening! (If you are lucky) or That can’t be, and we can’t do anything about it, anyway.
There wasnt anything resolved. The wayfarer is in the Same broken Status since 16 months
Thus the double-talk. Thank you for calling, today. Your call is important to us! We’ll get to it when we get to it, get it? These are not the droids you are looking for. Move along, move along….
This reminds me a call that I got today at the office:
I've told this a million times: Niantic won't change because people is too hooked. Too hooked to Ingress, too hooked to Pokemon Go, too hooked to Wayfarer. Doesn't matter the terrible experience, the bugs, the lack of acknowledgement of the problems and putting a real effort to fix them.
People keeps on paying, investing huge amounts of time for free, so Niantic won't change, there's no need for them to change and improve anything.
Maybe @NianticCasey-ING is still circling?
true to that. We shouldnt even try to get Niantic Employees to help us on something. The whole process with their chat-bot system is riduculous. It doesnt even want to connect us to a human beign, because, the human beign wont be able to help at all. We would only set the human beign under stress and get them to give us wrong answers.
in the forums, we do not even know if Casey and Giffard are real persons that have feelings and get payed every month. they could be just someone from accounting, someone from marketing and someone from the call center that copy and paste things here.
it wouldnt make any sense to try to get them to DO something to get us out of this misery, because they are not able to. We have been pouring solutions and ideas in the last 16 month and not even anything has changed to the positive. NIA even does Events that are not thought thru, not based on anything that makes sense with what as an outcome? there are three kids in Novosibirsk that now have 3 more wayspots in front of their concrete bunker, and we not only have a queue that is 2 years long, but now with added 1 year of upgraded queue!
I think that the Niantic team is trying to maintain professional distance with the community (and way overdoing it)... or maybe they think that if they talk too much they'll expose sensitive information that'll lead to manipulation of the system? Either way, it's been doing a TON of harm - for many, many months by now - to morals in the community and Niantic's general image, and it's flabbergasting how they don't seem to have realized it yet.
Surely it can’t be that hard for a company that is not short of money to create a heat map (using our old friend S2 cells) which would show hot areas where time from submission to endpoint is short, down to cold areas where it is long. I wouldn’t count upgrades in the data.
So they know where the submission is, date and time submitted, date and time either rejected or agreed.
That is the basic a few more tweaks could be added. Couldn’t we see that info ?
Couldn’t they even make a game out of it?
Someone else raised a topic about limbo here and I wondered if this ever got a resolution?
Hi @NianticDanbocat @NianticTintino
Bumping this thread up, please can you look into this? specifically the abuse vector problem, this isn't just a case of lack of reviewers, there is a part of east London (UK) that is blackholed and has been for years because of Redacted abuse, and we'd like a resolution now.
Please can you read over the thread and provide an answer for @Qwizical-ING ?
I live in an area where things go through. Quickly. Less than two weeks for non upgraded submissions. Maybe some of the submissions lingering for two years should get thrown my direction. Don't consider them upgrades, but throw them into my voting pool. I'm sure west central Missouri isn't the only location that can help move the queue along.
I would like to report again that since 2020, many requests for wayports in some regions of the city of Fortaleza, Brazil are not even going to evaluation, there is a kind of limbo in some neighborhoods. I cite for example this neighborhood in the coordinates below: Passaré neighborhood, Fortaleza, Brazil
-3.8079293093158855, -38.53803507873938
Did the Brazil event do anything for these nominations?