New Pokémon Go player and a painful Wayfarer lesson
I have been playing PGO for less than a year now. I can honestly say, I love the game, and it connects me to my childhood— as it does for some many of us.
After reaching a level high enough, I unlocked a new feature to this new game, I can now nominate poke stops. How exciting!? That’s exactly what I thought, as I am sure most of us felt the exact same way. My excitement would quickly be sapped away by a game I have never played, nor do I remotely care about: Ingress.
I want to say, that I am censoring my true thoughts and feelings about this issue, out of respect for this communities guidelines/rules. So when I discovered my Pokémon stop nomination went to different game, that I have never played, what a despicable and abysmal trick.
The thoughts of being able to truly enrich the experience for members of the community I spent months playing with in Pokémon Go, removed. I understand it’s all Niantic and that it Niantic is successful, the game I enjoy will be successful. However, to have a piece of love and excitement I felt for Pokemon Go, to be placed into a game that I will never hold any love or excitement towards is hollow.
I feel like I’ve donated one of my organs to keep some evil alive. I put my heart into Pokémon, and Niantic transplanted it to another game to keep it alive.
I know I have not played or probably spent near the amount of money on any niantic game, as some of the people who have played from the beginning, but I know they have felt this sting too. Standing on the outside looking in, why doesn’t the wayspot just get shared between all game platforms? That sounds like a better idea than surgically grafting life from one game into another.
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Just google s2 cells and Pokémon go
There is a fundamental misunderstanding here. There is no limit on how many games a wayspot can appear in. It's not an Ingress OR Pogo situation. In fact, most wayspots outside of densely clustered areas are in both games, as well as other Niantic games (both defunct and upcoming). Niantic has a central database, and the map for each game is populated with wayspots based on each game's own algorithm. Similar to another recent thread, wayspots aren't "stolen" or "transplanted," as they are simply not limited to appearing in one game only. As @29andCounting-PGO said, look up how wayspots are determined in Pogo and spare yourself the drama.
dude, not a single one of the Ingress players here is a bit interested in our Pokestops (their Portals).
They only cling to their highlevel portals they slide over day in and day out.
Also, to remark the other posters that tell you to to look something up -> Niantic isnt telling you about S2 cells. Infact, they dont talk about S2 cells at all. We´re gonna keep them out of it.
A lot of the Pokéstops and Gyms you interact with will have originally been submitted by Ingress agents. They've helped you out by giving you a usable game board, now you've given them an extra portal to use. You are helping a community, just not necessarily the one you were hoping to help.
As others have said, each of Niantic's games has their own inclusion rule, and in the games that have submission privileges, those privileges are there in order to submit wayspots to the Lightship database, rather than to individual games (the text in game is misleading in this sense).
Ingress isn't stealing your nominations. Your nomination was close enough to another Pokéstop or Gym to not appear in Pokémon Go, that's all.
Boo ****. No-one cares. Wasted too many words on the other thread of someone crying over the same thing.
I'm an Ingress player. I care, somewhat. Many of us play both primary games, and other games when they become available. I don't like to see Pokemon Go vs. Ingress statements here because this is my place to make Wayfarer my primary activity - so please do not speak for me in this regard. Back before candidates could be submitted through Pokemon Go, I routinely took requests from our local chats for new coverage areas for submissions. I've created lots of gyms in my local town, none of which I can enjoy fully since I'm a member of a minority team. I originally turned to Ingress solely to create new content in Pokemon Go, and I researched the process fully before I began so I knew how things work. I can't be faulted for developing a love for Ingress, for its strategy and efforts and its innovations. I still play Pokemon Go daily. Can I opt out of the schism, please?
I understand your frustration and in all fairness Niantic do a pretty poor job of explaining what the process is and what exactly you are contributing to when you submit a nomination.
Pinpointing Ingress as the problem is an incorrect approach though.
Okay, thank you. I just want my stops to appear in the world after they are approved. It just feels so ambiguous. I know what the problem is, it’s mine and I expect/want that stop to show up when it’s labeled as approved. It makes me want to know why did this stop show up vs this one? What did I do differently for this stop, vs the other? Again, thanks.
Each game has it's own spacing rules and inclusion rules, some stuff you submit may meet the spacing requirements Nia has and in which case it will be able to appear in game x, or it may not meet the spacing requirement, in which case it wont appear in game x, but might appear in game y. Simple as that.
Learn about S2 cells in Pokémon go. Some people don't like to talk about them but that's the answer that you are searching for.
Not at all. I'm as guilty as probably most Pogo players when it comes to nominating while knowing the spacing rules that Go adheres to.
It would be nice to nominate the multitude of things that I see but know won't appear in Go but with a waiting time of 12-24 months it's not going to happen
I didn’t know what Ingress was until I downloaded it today, looked for my approved nominations, and then found them in that game. So to see them approved, but not in the game I submitted them in…yeah, I didn’t understand why that was, and treating ingress like Pokémon go, saw them as what would be a pokestop. So yeah, that’s a misunderstanding on my end and apologize to any ingress players, but that’s from trying to understand the mystery behind an approved stop showing up, and not showing up.
I have had roughly the same amount of approved stops showing up on the game as approved stops not showing up in the game.
I thought it was a distance thing like others have mentioned, but I had cases that didn’t fit that rule either.
If the stop shows up, it shows up, if not, then not. I’ll still keep trying to have stops approved, but it just feels empty when nothing shows up after being approved. Thanks again to everyone for the help/insight.
It's not a distance rule, for more see
And yes, you and many others before have been tricked by the misleading nomination process and it's understandable to be upset. Just aim your frustration to correct target, which is Niantic as a company, not Ingress players.
Don’t give up, it can be a painful learning process.
Because Niantic won’t talk about it to even confirm anything you have to scrabble around for info - do your homework.
There is also information on Reddit in the wayfarer forum and if you search the Silph Road.
All the matters is the cell boundaries.
Getting someone to help you can make a difference. Wayfarer can’t afford to lose someone who is willing to put in the effort to create good submissions. So this forum can help if you want advice about what is suitable and how best to “sell” it. Learning to review gives another angle by looking at what others have submitted.
And don’t forget to still enjoy the game.
Maybe take it as a learning experience. At the same time, figure out the PoGo cell system so your next submit has a better chance of getting approved in PoGo. Submitting waypoints are just one aspect of Niantic games. Enjoy the game, have fun, explore and meet fellow players.
Hello! Based on the content of the discussion, I will be closing it for future comments. I appreciate your understanding.