Fakes Eibenstock, part 4

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City: Eibenstock

Country: Germany, federal state Saxony


Title: Das nordöstliche Grubenfeld

fake location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=50.488624,12.604317&z=17&pll=50.488624,12.604317

real location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=50.578306,12.708504&z=17&pll=50.578306,12.708504

proof: this infoboard is part of the educational trail about mining history Bergbaulehrpfad am Heidelsberg (wiki-link). Corporate design can be seen at the wikipedia-pictures and it's unique for this trail: the 3 historical crests at the are unambiguous: the right one is the town crest of the town Aue (wiki-link), where the real portal is, depicting two bridges above a river on blue ground.


Catholic waycrosses

Why is this sort of wayspots nearly impossible here?

See the wikipedia-article about religion in Germany. There is this graphic (added the arrow for the location):

So you can see, that Northern Germany is Protestant (blue) and Southern Germany Catholic (green)..... and then there is the area of the former GDR, where religion was supressed and so the area is atheistic. According to the blue-green-border the Christians are Protestants there, and that border exists since the 17th century.

This map is the map about Protestant (orange/red) and Catholic (blueish) distribution from the age of the biggest religious war within Germany, the Thirty Years war from 1618-1648 (source of this map is the German wiki article).

So you can see, that nowadays distribution is exactly the same like in the 17th century, except, that the GDR-area, that was coined by the Soviet Union, was turned into atheist majority.

So the town Eibenstock is at a teritory, that is Protestant since 17th century, and then turned atheistic. One could say, that it's close to the kingdom of Bohemia (in the map "Königreich Böhmen"). Again here the old map is very valuable, because nowadays country borders between Czechia and Germany around Saxony are created during the Thirty Years War from above. So one could guess, that there could be catholic influences, but there are two hard facts against this:

  • Bohemia (and nowadays Czechia) is very special according to the map: Bohemia had an early protestant movement during early 15th century led by Jan Hus, but the king of Bohemia stayed catholic. So the religion of Bohemia and Czechia is very mixed and until nowadays not really catholic and also not really protestant.
  • The "buffer zone", on religious as well as on ethnic level, is the Sudetenland .... the sovereign there switched very often during the following centuries. Bohemia (until ???) -> Austria-Hungary (until WW1, especially the Sudetenland was part of the title of the Austrian Emperor, while Bohemia belonged to the title King of Hungary ) -> Czechoslovakia (until 1938) -> Third Reich (until 1945) -> Czechoslovakia (until 1990) -> Czechia. So the "buffer zone" between Catholic and Protestant church is fully in Czechia. (Btw nowadays this region is full of abandoned villages .... after each war big parts of the German minority left the region)


What do Protestants (and Atheists) don't do?

They don't depict Jesus or other saints. So they dont use the crucifix as their crosses. They use bare crosses. You won't find modern wooden Jesus-crosses somewhere in this region.

The only thing, where you can find Jesus-Statues are stone statues at churches, that are older than the protestant movement (since they didnt tear down existing depictions) or sometimes bronze or stone statues at graveyards. But for sure no wooden way crosses. That is only a thing in Southern Bavaria ....

Wooden waycrosses would also require, that people care about them and renew them regularly. Look at nowadays religious distribution - there is no way, that this happens there. And even if you look at the other side of the border, then the small religious wayside objects there are also made of stone or metal. For example waycrosses (some with attached Jesus, some without him: example 1, example 2, example 3, example 4, example 5, example 6, example 7, example 8) and sculptures of Saints (example 1, example 2) and stations of the cross (example 1) and shrines (example 1)


The religious fakes:

So please check in detail the data of the submissions. Supporting pictures can't be fitting. exif data too ....


Title: Heiliger Jesu

Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=50.486471,12.610722&z=17&pll=50.486471,12.610722

unusual wooden one, unfitting Catholic example since Jesus is depicted, and with a **** candle attached. Location also highly suspicious ..... why should a new waycross be in front of a rotten junkyard?

Further the picture seems to be doctored. The picture consists of blurry streaks somehow. Reminds me of Perlin noise ..... look at the stone and the grass at the left side ....


Title: Heiliger Jesus und Maria

Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=50.48976,12.603713&z=17&pll=50.48976,12.603713

it is right next to another fake, the initial one of this thread.

picture has strange size in original size (google link with =s0 added), seems to be 3rd party.

Further nothing within the picture fits the location:

blue: compare how long the meadow is in the picture. few hundreds of metres. In the sat view its only 100m ....

red: where is this attached building part with the tarred roof felt?

Further the house in the Picture is orange, while it's in the sat view white. Also it is at least one floor higher in the sat view.

The hedgerow is totally wrong aligned ...

That the house could be new is no argument. Germany has very up-to-date satelite views. Usually not older than 1 year .... and this wayspot is way older than 1 year.

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