Appeal for little free library Deven

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  • Wayspot Title: Little Free library Devon
  • Location (lat/lon): (41.9970045, -87.8192065)
  • City: Chicago
  • Country:USA
  • Screenshot of the Rejection Email (do not include your personal information):
  • Additional Information (if any): this spot was removed a week ago for an unknown reason. It is on the public side of a fence and not attached in any way to the fence. Which conforms to the criteria [quote=“NianticTintino, post:1, topic:12464”]
    Little Free Libraries with safe access on sidewalks outside of apartment buildings or on municipal or communal property are eligible. Those on single-family private residential properties (SFPRP) are ineligible.
    [/quote] and clarification [quote=“NianticTintino, post:1, topic:12462”]
    This includes the outer facing facade, fence of these locations, and property boundaries.
    [/quote]. As this is outside the fence clearly on the sidewalk public easement per local ordinance page 3.

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Is this the little free library? This looks like it is on single family private residential property.

The play survey shows that it belongs to the house with the white fence on the public side of the property line. Number five and six on this public plat survey. https://gisapps.chicago.gov/gisimages/80acres/pdfs/esw364112r.pdf

If you are asking for it to be returned, it is not eligible due to being on SFPRP. You need to annotate an image from the PDF in order to assist anyone with finding this plot on it.

Notice the entrance to this plot a little bit to the left, indicating that this triangle of land belongs to the house.

Looking at that survey and street view (above) and Google maps, that LFL sure looks like it’s in the front yard of the home at 6400 N. Olympia Ave. That’s what I think you meant by “5” and “6”.

Never mind - I found it.

The LFL is inside the bottom right-hand corner of the large triangular plot 16.

I think you are off by a block? Still it’s on SFPRP.

You’re right. I very carefully got that wrong. Oddly, the plot layout for the junction of W.Devon and N.Olympia is very misleading, as it shows this single triangular plot is comprised of three plots 5, 6 and 7. This is probably why I moved onto the next junction :wink:

None of this stops the LFL being inside SFPRP and the zoning map confirms this.

The other link I posted shows that if it’s outside the fence line it is city property which conforms to the guidance that the stop cannot be connect to a fence

Please note that none of us are staff. Only they have the power to decide your appeal. We are just bringing up issues you will need to address. Staff will have user names that begin with “Niantic” here. I personally can’t make heads or tails of that map. I reject anything I see in review with the LFL on the house side of the sidewalk in front of Single Family Private Residential Property (SFPRP).

If it is outside the property line it is probably on city property. Remarkably there are placed where the grass strip between the sidewalk and the road surface is still private property, which is often when the sidewalk is just for show and not for use.

Here, it is inside the property line. Not all property boundaries have fences/hedges/walls. The fence you are looking at is between this plot and the neighbouring one, not between this plot and city property.

I absolutely love reporting these couch spots.

If it was located between the sidewalk and curb, it would probably be acceptable, since that area is generally part of the public right of way.

But this one is clearly not. The house to the left doesn’t have a fenced front yard, but that doesn’t make its front yard public.

Likely, after another recent post about an area in Chicago, Help with little free libraries , someone double checked a bunch of nearby ones.

Wish I could take credit for it but wasn’t me.

Look at the plat survey I posted the house on the corner has 25’ off the corner on Devon ave. That is 5 sidewalk blocks. The city ordinance requires fences be placed 1’ away from sidewalks because the city property encompasses 1’ around the sidewalk.

Consider if the planters down the street (against the sidewalk and bounding both sides of the steps), had something interesting in them wayspot worthy. They would likely be rejected as SFPRP, even though they might be within the 1’ line around the sidewalk.

Thanks for the appeal, @seanpat68! We have taken another look but stand by our decision to retire this Wayspot.