Automatic rejections on text heavy submissions

Hey,

I’m having lots of trouble with automatic rejections. The common theme seems to be that they all feature some sort of text.
I try to be thorough, looking at google maps to see if street view is available and if not I try to include something to better pinpoint the location. Right now it’s a bit frustrating to even get past the automatic process.
The “Viktoria Center” was automatically rejected 3 times. The third time was immediate when I included a screenshot of the article I’ve linked. The fourth time the community rejected it because “The submission lacks uniqueness or historical and cultural meaning”. I assumed this would happen, as I don’t think people are aware the sign can be eligible, which is why I included the screenshot in the previous attempt. I don’t have any appeals left right now, but I wanted to inquire about this anyway and maybe I can get this looked at here.
For the “Routenmarker Wasserstraßenkreuz Besucher-Route” I only tried it twice. Before that I was able to get another marker for this route accepted without issues.
“Pfad der Kinderrechte - Stele 2” has a similar problem. I was able to get one of the human rights things approved, but for the rights of the children only automatic rejections.
And lastly the “porta Markt”. Tried it once, got automatically rejected. Also a named sign for the location that follows the rules in here Shopping Plazas

Title: Viktoria Center
Description: Einkaufszentrum in Bahnhofsnähe.
Supplemental: Laut Wayfarer sind solche Schilder von einkaufszentren erlaubt. Siehe hier: Shopping Plazas Gute Auswahl an verschiedenen Geschäften und man kann hier auch zusammen Essen. Es gibt einen Bäcker mit Bistro und draußen auch einen festen Imbiss. Laut Erklärung der Kontakte knüpfen Kategorie: “Freunde oder auch Fremde treffen können, um gemeinsam zu essen, zu trinken”. Auf dem Schild nicht zu sehen, aber es gibt auch noch ein großes Pflanzengeschäft. Schild ist am Gehweg. Bildausschnitt ist nicht mein favorit, aber es scheint sonst das Ai bewertungssystem zu verwirren.

Title: Routenmarker Wasserstraßenkreuz Besucher-Route
Description: Ruhige Route am Wasser entlang.
Supplemental: Lädt zum bewegen und erkunden ein. Nur damit man versteht wo es auf der karte ist hab ich mal beim Kollegen das Handy abfotografiert. Sonst ist es auf maps schwer zuzuordnen. Es fahren dort keine normalen Autos. Nur die Bootsleute stellen dort in Schrittgeschwindigkeit ihre fahrzeuge ab. Beim Link von minden-erleben muss muss ein wenig runterscrollen. Dort wird man dann zu komoot weitergeleitet. Den link habe ich aber auch hier eingefügt. WSA Mittellandkanal-ESK - Rundwanderweg Minden Wasserstraßenkreuz und Schleusen Naturerlebnispfad Weserschleuse | hike | Komoot Trailmarker sind laut niantic ok auch wenn sie so basic wirken Trails & Markers

Title: Pfad der Kinderrechte - Stele 2
Description: Station Gesundheit. Teil eines Projektes mit Informationstafeln über die zehn wichtigsten Kinderrechte.
Supplemental: Steht passig auf dem Gelände des Gemeinschaftsgarten da es ja auch um Gesunde und bewusste Ernährung geht. Daher auch Einmal das Bild mit deren Informationen, damit man sieht es ist kein Privatgrundstück. Pfad der Kinderrechte

Title: porta Markt
Description: Einkaufszentrum mit vielen Möglichkeiten zum Shoppen, Essen und Stöbern.
Supplemental: Schild befindet sich direkt am Radweg und Fußweg. Beliebter Treffpunkt- Mir war auch nicht bewusst das es erlaubt ist, aber laut dem Wayfarer Team schon. Siehe hier: Shopping Plazas Gute Auswahl an verschiedenen Geschäften und man kann hier auch zusammen Essen. Laut Erklärung der Kontakte knüpfen Kategorie: “Freunde oder auch Fremde treffen können, um gemeinsam zu essen, zu trinken”.

I can provide more information if needed. I don’t know what I need to do to get past the numerous automatic rejections.

Anything I can do to get some tips on this?

Welcome to the forum. I am sorry your question was skipped. With the combination of languages, the translate button isn’t working for me, so I left this for someone who could read both.

Are you saying that your rejection was from the “automated process” or that almost as soon as you submit it, it is rejected?

The first two times it took at least a day for the ai to reject the submission. The third time I submitted it I included the forum screenshot and the ai rejected it within minutes. Always saying " This submission was declined by Niantic’s automated process for not adhering to Wayfarer criteria".

We dont know how AI works. Only staff can tell why exactly its rejected

You can try appeal. If you disagree with rejection, You have 2 appeals. Each with 15days cooldown.

Assuming you take picture yourself and there are no location issue, i think the shopping plaza sign could work. Anyway since you got AI rejection, try geting fresh foto. Using used foto might get AI rejected again.

I want to avoid having to use so many appeals. Especially since there are more things I want to upload. More shopping plazas, more trail markers. The best solution can’t be to only upload two “text heavy” submissions every 15 days basically.

And all pictures are of course taken by me. Sometimes it’s harder to take new pictures. There are a few locations I’ve only driven to, in order to take pictures.

There have been reports of rejected nominations using the exact same text on resubmit being rejected immediately like this. I would recommend always using different text at least on a resubmit, and if the “automated process” rejected it in the normal 24 hour way, I recommend a different photo.

I am honestly at a loss as to why the automated process would be rejecting these nominations from what I see here. I get plenty of similar looking nominations to review. My only suggestion besides appealing is to keep trying different photos and text. I am sorry I can’t be more helpful. They don’t share the specifics of what the machine learning model is checking for exactly because that would be abused.

Thank you!

Though I still hope staff has any more insights on this. I’ve submitted lots of things after those now and have had less issues. I’m wondering if there could have been a rejection heavy time period and the ai got “calibrated” after that.
Welp, I’ll just keep on truckin’.