Bad appeal rejection reason

Just doing my nearly monthly complaining about a bad appeal rejection :upside_down_face:

Now admittedly I should have done better on the description, but I quickly typed it up and uploaded it by accident on my walk then forgot to go edit it lol but the appeal i filled in more

The rejection though, a massive produced bolt, that just isnt true

Also, I didnt make up that it was an ordinance Bolt

https://trigpointing.uk/trigs/8015

I found it using that

Yeah they don’t like these as I found out a few years ago. Never re- tried this with different photos as its quite a walk upstream - it would be easier to show where it is nowadays with multiple supporting pics. But I wasn’t sure how much I believed it would be accepted if I made the effort to walk back there so I didn’t

Unless I am misunderstanding what this is, I think this applies

Hard to say because the one Gazza mentioned is in a very good place to explore based on the link they shared! OS markers at trig points are generally hilltop, and were used for map making.

Probably would be an idea to submit it with a view of the surroundings like a placeholder for the view maybe @gazzas89? because I bet its stunning (when its not horrid weather like it is at the moment I guess lol)

If it could get to normal voting I think it would pass, but it was auto rejected, which is annoying

Different things imo, the one I posted is part of the trig stone ordinance in the uk that was used in the 1700s, to map the whole of the uk. They are very rarely in cities, but more up hills and mountains

I wanted to make sure the bolt wa sin view, because its not that big lol, its a a wee rock with thw bolt on it (in fact it took me 10.minutes to find cause it was covered in the foliage lol) but next time I go up ill try again with a better picture

Its always hard to know how to frame things isnt it

I was annoyed by my appeal since it is visible (just) in my supporting and the stone is visible on satellite/street view as well :sweat_smile:

Wouldn’t it be easier to submit the entire pillar?

I think I couldn’t get a wider picture because it faces the river and is close to the bank, and since I did this a long time ago, my phone wouldn’t zoom out enough for it. Maybe if I go back when its less muddy I could try again but I was focussing on the survey bolt since that seemed to be the significant point of the concrete block

I don’t see this as the same. Those survey markers, generally found as ineligible wayspots littering the suburbs of Australia, do not have a website dedicated to members of the public who like finding them.

These ordinance bolts (which I have never heard of before despite being in the UK, submitting boundary stones and similar old objects) appear to have a website dedicated to them because people enjoy finding them.

I think that’s a key difference when considering whether something counts under Exploration.

I agree with most of this (at least in principle), problem being that the internet is a huge place and almost everything will have a website about them :confounded_face: