This is my 2nd go for a named burial mound. My last attempt also the appeal rejected with:
Thanks for the appeal, Explorer! The nomination in question is connected to the mound which falls under natural feature. Unfortunately, this does not meet the eligibility criteria to be a Wayspot. If the location is a popular tourist attraction or a point of interest for the community or visitors, we suggest resubmitting the nomination with a place marker sign that represents the natural feature as a public attraction or historic site. This would significantly improve the chances of your nomination being eligible. For further guidance, we encourage you to review the eligibility criteria here for such nominations: Eligibility Criteria — Wayfarer Help Center
Here is the new nomination, that got rejected by AI, which was expected.
It has an awesome saga connected to it: http://egedalleksikon.dk/index.php/Asserhøj_-_et_folkesagn (tranlated: At night, the Asser Mound stands on four pillars of fire and whoever is buried inside comes outside to take a breath. Old people say that a man whose field this mound was on once wanted to remove it. But the first day he dug in the mound, two of his best horses died.)
Similar named mounds east of this has a wayspot.
Has a bus stop named after it.
How do i best hit the mark in my next appeal?
Or perhaps I’m mistaken, and it is not eligible.
This POI really really wants a landscape photo. So much so that this is more important than any issues with potentially some reviewers not liking landscape photos.
You want more POI and less grass and sky, which means a landscape photo. You want to show that this mound is not natural, which is best done by showing the land to the right and the left, which means a landscape photo.
Features you want in the main photo : the mound, the tree, the path leading up to the mound (which is visible in your photo, but only just - a landscape photo will help with this). If you can get sky like you had their, that will be better than just grey cloud.
I just noticed your description. It’s one word. Even though the description is not mandatory, it is always worth writing something decent, and one word is just not enough.
Title: [named] Burial Mound
In the description, say that this is the [named] burial mound for [person or culture] that is connected to an awesome saga that [description of awesome saga]. If it is a tourist attraction, say this as well - you can also say it links to nearby burial mounds to form an area of exploration if this is the case
In the supporting text, link to the story of the saga and the other link. Don’t worry about saying that it is accessible, because your main photo will show that. You can mention the bus stop is named after the burial mound, as this helps show the cultural value. Don’t say that other mounds are also wayspots, as this isn’t relevant (each wayspot is evaluated on its own merits, and just because something is an existing wayspot doesn’t mean it /should/ be a wayspot).
For your arguments, I would strongly avoid points 1, 3, and 4. The fact that something is named or has a bus stop doesn’t imply eligibility, neither do wayspots for something else. What absolutely can support your nomination is point number 2, however you don’t mention this interesting saga story anywhere in your nomination and that’s a shame because it looks to me like it’s your number one selling point that makes this an interesting place to explore. As said above you can make an effort that would help your nomination way more than a single word description currently does - mention this in the description and provide the link to the saga in the supporting information.
You’re up against both community reviewers ML not particularly liking (we think) “natural feature” photos, and there is always the option that it will have to go to an appeal because of that, so the rest of your information should be readily available and on point.
Good input. I will visit the mound again and try to get a better landscape photo. Will also make a better description, where i will mention the saga. I had some other nomination rejected because of 3rd party description, so I will avoid pasting the saga directly.
Thank you for your input. Also, i just remember that there is a stone that is some kind of indication/marking. But it is worn and you can only barely make out a crown symbol edged into it. Would it be a good idea to use that as supplementary picture?
Just looked it up and here is what i says:
Marking stones with a crown on burial mounds in Denmark are a symbol that the ancient monument is protected.
Meaning: The crown marks that the burial mound is protected by the state, originally under the Nature Conservation Act (from 1937) and today under the Museums Act.
Purpose: The stone marks the border of the conservation zone, which typically extends 100 meters from the mound, where no building or changes are allowed.
History: Many of these stones were set up to ensure that Bronze Age burial mounds (approx. 1700 BC - 500 BC) are not plowed away or destroyed.
I don’t think anyone has said this yet, but to my understanding, a burial mound would be a sacred site that I would have a lot of trouble accepting unless convinced it has become more of a tourist/historical attraction than a sensitive location.
Text that is suspiciously well written and looks like it is cribbed, I always check and would always reject if it is copy-pasted, but if it is rewritten (with obvious source material) that’s OK, so it’s good to be aware of that
There is a local cemetery near me that is rammed with graves and wayspots, because it is an active tourist attraction and definitely not an active cemetery, since it is full.
If this is an ancient burial mound, as suggested by having a saga associated with it, I strongly disagree with the idea that it could be a sensitive location. The path leading up to it very unlikely to be from people paying their respects, but will be from tourists and visitors exploring the mound.
This mound is equivalent to this one:
That’s near Stonehenge in Salisbury, UK. Definitely a burial site, definitely not sensitive.
I understood this to be a historic tumulus, which probably wouldn’t have burials for thousands of years, but you make a good point that if there is anything additional going on here that can be sensitive, it’s worth being considerate.
Yup, was my thought as well.
I also have this link, which is an hiking trail, where the mound is located on the map and in the text as well. I provided that in my last nomi, but not in this, because the link didn’t work last i checked. However it does now
