Frustration with Wayfarer Suspension System

Hello everyone,

I just wanted to vent a bit of frustration. I was suspended for 30 days — and yes, I admit it was my own fault. I used Google Maps images as supporting photos and pinned the location about 6 meters off. Ironically, I was also the one who submitted the appeal myself. Pretty dumb, I know.

What really frustrates me, though, is that Wayfarer seems to be completely black and white. My intention was completely honest, but in the end that doesn’t matter because I technically broke a rule.

Submitting Wayspots is something I genuinely enjoy. I’ve had quite a lot approved — probably close to 100 — and I’m just about to reach Champion rank. That’s exactly why I find it questionable that active Wayfarers are punished just as harshly as people who intentionally abuse the system.

I understand that strict enforcement is necessary. But right now, it feels like the system punishes the people who are actively contributing and willing to try things. For example, if you go AFK for just a few minutes while reviewing, you can get penalized simply for not closing the review window.

I’ve also noticed that clearly fake AI-generated Wayspots sometimes still get accepted — even after being reported. Often, action is only taken when you escalate it in the forum. With the new map tools, you can now check whether those fake Wayspots are still there — and many of the ones I reported are still in the system. That’s extremely demotivating.

You really try to submit high-quality and interesting Wayspots that add value to the game, and in return you risk getting hit with a harsh penalty (even though, yes, breaking the rules is still wrong). But in my opinion, the severity of punishment doesn’t feel balanced compared to actual abuse cases.

I know some people will say: “Just submit safe stuff like playgrounds.” But honestly, that’s just boring. It removes all variety and makes the map feel repetitive and dull.

And what are you supposed to do in areas where there are barely any free cells left? When you’re stuck with two Wayspots and need a third one to trigger another gym, but a large number of cells are basically unusable, you just can’t progress anymore. That’s very discouraging in the long run.

For me, this now effectively means a forced break of about a year, even though I really enjoy submitting new Wayspots. I don’t blame anyone else — this was my mistake.

My question is: what could I have done better in this situation? If you are missing two Wayspots and 40 out of 64 cells can’t be used, what’s the right approach?
Is there any possibility that Wayfarer still triggers a third gym with only 18 existing stops, or is that simply not a thing?

Wayfarer does not trigger in-game locations, it is up to the games to handle those.

Wayfarer is about exploring, if there is nothing to explore, then that is that and you expand your view to go out and explore locations further from your play area. And sometimes there is just not more, that is what it is, no need to ‘force’ cells.

If you become pogo community ambassador, you can propose campsite for your local community gathering spot. Meaning you can propose extra pokestop and /or gym (subject to approval) but this is outside wayfarer (i am not pogo community ambassador)

The issue is the following: Right next to the park, which already has a lot of interesting Wayspots (some even duplicated multiple times in one cell ), there is a sewage treatment plant. This facility effectively blocks a large area — around 40 cells — which cannot be used for new Wayspots.

As a result, the park loses a huge amount of potential, even though there would actually be many valid and worthwhile submissions possible.

The community organizer has been waiting for a response on this issue for over a year now, but nothing has happened so far.

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That is because of inclusion rules of the respective games, again outside of the scope of Wayfarer. It is unfortunate that this happens, but don’t let this limit you in going exploring!

Unfortunately, I won’t be able to explore anymore. I have to take a break of about ONE years until my suspension is lifted.

Hi,
First some points to clarify.
Not fully logging out when you review does not trigger a punishment….over the years I often get distracted etc when reviewing and nothing happens.
The redemption period when a suspension is issued is 1 year. I fully understand that to minimise the risk people will take a complete break from wayfarer but it is 1 year not 2 . I always advise that you use that time to review your practice and keep up to date with changes.
You didn’t “technically” break the rules. You did break the rules. That is the final point of acceptance you need to make.

It is Pokemon Go that sets the inclusion rules not Wayfarer. But yes trying for that 3rd gym is a driver for a wayfinder exploring. I have spent hours on some level 14 cells walking round and round trying to spot things. And that will sound very privilidged to those in more rural areas or housing deserts where you are scrambling to find 1 or 2.
But sometimes it just isn’t possible. Leave it and return after some time as something may have changed.

Hey @NoDiddyKing ,

This is not completely true. Please refrain from sharing incomplete information. It spreads negativity and unfounded fear.

We do not treat similar violations differently. An abuse is an abuse irrespective of who commits it.

No correct.

We take the accuracy of our database very seriously. Manipulating the gameboard is a serious offense and is dealt as such in each and every case.

Thanks,

Thanks for your feedback, Aaron. I’m sorry if it came across differently—that wasn’t my intention. I didn’t mean to provide any incorrect or misleading information.
@NianticAaron
This is the nomination that I submitted and for which I filed an appeal. I have to dispute the allegation of location manipulation. A discrepancy of only 6 meters cannot reasonably be considered a violation. The submitted location accurately represents the real-world position of the object, and any minor difference is within normal GPS accuracy and mapping tolerances.

I also found this among my screenshots. These are just a few examples. The entire town of Rodenbach (67688) is filled with fake AI-generated images. When I reported them, I never received any information about whether any action was taken.

If you post the rejected report in wayspot appeal, you can get it removed (please provide enough evidence)

Wayfarer is mostly reviewed by community, because its impossible for niantic staff to review everything themselves (back then review take 2 years before opr/wayfarer come out)

Consequencely some wayspot might got accepted incorrectly whether by newbie/ ignorant reviewer or deliberate act from review circle. These incorrectly approved wayspot are on borrowed time until someone report them.

I understand how you could see using Google streetview or other stolen photos as a lesser offense to using AI fake photos. However it is still stealing and Niantic as a company can get in serious legal trouble for using another person’s photos, without thier explicit written permission, in a game to make money. We as players gave them permission in the fine print of the user’s agreement we had to click. That’s why we have to use pictures we took ourselves. Some rules are to make the system as good as possible and some have a specific legal basis. This is one of those and Niantic does not mess around.

I would disagree with this. You’ve shown that you can see the object on satellite view, and it’s very easy to zoom the map in when placing the pin so that it is directly on the object you’re nominating. Six metres might not seem like much of a displacement, but it certainly could’ve easily been avoided, and it appears that the location you were attempting to submit it at is in a different Level 14 S2 Cell from the one where the object actually is, which does look at least a little bit suspicious.

My Wayfarer account is still suspended. I kindly ask you to lift the suspension, as the suspension period expired quite some time ago. Thank you for your assistance.
@NianticAaron

Can someone please explain why legitimate Wayspots were removed from the game after my suspension?

That is a known issue with Wayfarer after a suspension has been served; Niantic will need to release this.

The legitimate wayspots being removed is almost certainly a separate issue and it would be helpful if you could provide details

You should be able to access Wayfarer now.

Best,



Those last two look like graffiti, not authorised murals, so would have been removed if reported.

I can’t work out where the picnic table is so cannot comment on that yet.

The small graffiti-covered box is used by postal workers as a temporary storage point for mail. It is a distinctive feature and can be found throughout Cologne.