George V Pillar Box - Chalmers Road

Hello!

I thought this was going to be an easy win but it wasn’t. What am I missing, and how can I improve?

Thank you!

George V Pillar Box - Chalmers Road

A classic Royal Mail red pillar box featuring the “GR” (George Rex) cipher of King George V. This historic Type B cylindrical box has served the Banstead community since the early 20th century and remains a well-preserved local landmark.

Historic King George V (GR) pillar box (c. 1910-1936). Pre-war artifact and local landmark. Meets exploration criteria. Safe pedestrian access on public pavement at the corner of Chalmers Rd. NOT on private residential property or school grounds.

The location is about here:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZUrWQDGzo8tuWFim6

Hi. Welcome to the community.

The Postbox / Pillar Box is eligible, however you have the wrong cipher. It’s King George VI. I would suggest resubmitting it with the correct Cipher details and Description.

Also, the nomination was rejected by the Machine Learning, which generally speaking has a hate relationship with Mailboxes, not because it’s in the UK, but it is unable to tell the difference between the historic UK Mailboxes and the generic ones around the world. So it’s worth resubmitting with the correct details and if it gets rejected by ML, I would then suggest appealing it through your Wayfarer profile (2 appeals every 15 days, terms and conditions apply). If the appeal fails, appeal it here, and we can help support your appeal claim and hope it gets approved.

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Hello and welcome @snargl

First we have a whole topic about Postboxes

You will find there are issues around them. Do read.

I will allow fellow U.K. wayfinders to assist, but for a starter this is not a George V but a George VI postbox.

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It may help those trying to help you to show them the rejection reason. You will find that on your contribution itself at https://wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/new/nominations With the email reading that it is from “our team”, my guess will be that it was rejected by the “automated process”.

The rest of the world doesn’t really get why y’all consider these eligible, so I would not recommend appealing this rejection. But they can coach you on a resubmit, or not.

Excellent, that helped, thanks!


Many pokestops around here are mailboxes, and many mailboxes are pokestops, so that’s in keeping with the local culture. They’re super old and I think it’s fair to say that they’re of historical significance.

Also, I don’t know what else to nominate around here… We have a beautiful trailhead (that was also rejected) and signs that say not to feed the horses?

Is there anything I can do to improve this mailbox as a candidate?

Read the topic about mailboxes that I linked.

We are happy to advise about trailheads - do you mean PROW which are eligible to be considered.
A don’t feed horses sign is not suitable.

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Thank you!

My apologies for getting the Georges wrong :slight_smile: So we have George the Sixth here, and there are “only” 9466 post boxes with this cipher, which is sufficiently rare. Right? Website of the Postal Museum: George VI cyphers are fairly rare compared with his father George V and great grandmother Queen Victoria.

Is there a way to edit the submission and send it for review again?

I cannot easily start from scratch since I am no longer in the area. Truth be told, I’m not even British.

The mailbox topic is very helpful, thanks!

I’m surprised it was rejected, even when I actually agree that it should be rejected. I can’t imagine that anyone really believes that many people will really think this is something to explore (and certainly not exercise or be social).

Just because it is old, doesn’t mean it is special, certainly when there are so many throughout the UK.

But the community in the UK has a different view, they appear to have created their own standard, so many are apparently approved.

So my guess is, that if you resubmit, with slightly different pictures, and you can pass the AR, the community will approve it.

Or appeal, and refer to the postbox topic, where somehow the consensus is that old postboxes should be approved.

Anything Prior to QE2 Postboxes are generally acceptable. It goes down to wording. Some people prefer using Pillar Box, I use Postbox. Sometimes ML picks up the request and more often than not, it will get rejected. If you resubmit with the correct cipher, and it still gets rejected. I would resubmit.

Mine took several attempts before it was Accepted. Lots of people work on the worldwide view that post boxes are ineligible and some appeal staff are also the same.

Many people do, it’s down to it’s history.

  • Part of the Royal Mail story, One of (if not the) oldest postal service in the world.
  • It’s the Cypher not the box itself that is of interest. Commemorating the reigning monarch at the time of it’s installation.
  • The post boxes are rarely replaced unless they are damaged beyond repair. They are usually installed at the time that the estate is built therefor they are a good indication of the age of the neighbourhood.

Speaking from personal experience, while the uk reviewers will accept them, trying to get to them is almost impossible now. Ive just given up, even though I have a list of about 7 post boxes to submit, im waiting for Emily to go offline, they always gomeohht to Emily and insta rejected and every appeal ive done has fialed as well. Ive tried calling the cyphers, pillar boxes, racially not said post boxes and have said post boxes, but never get past the ai and the appeals team always reject lol

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This has been my experience too, but seems something has been changing as it seems recently that these are getting past the ML, so there’s some hope! Like you say, getting a non Elizabeth box in front of UK reviewers should mean a pretty easy acceptance but the issue for a while has been getting things in front of normal reviewers

After finding three unsubmitted postboxes this last weekend I have managed to get two Pillarboxes into queue past 24hrs, however my wallbox was sent to Niantic Review where it was rejected. It didn’t help that I stupidly said it was ‘Georgian’ in my supporting, when that was a period in the 18-19th century, and my box was a GR (1910 - 1936). I will try again with a new photo.

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Oh that was always one of my pet hates, had me mentally screaming it’s not Georgian :joy::joy::joy:

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I have bolstered my supporting text knowing these will likely go to Niantic Reviewers, making reference to the forum thread about them all. That’s where I wrote the Georgian thing. Made sure to take it out of my other GR the next day when I reread what I had written. Doesn’t help that the city its in is filled with Georgian architecture.

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George, Georgian, nearly.

From what I know, these are not accepted by appeal reviewers so should not be appealed

They may get rejected on appeal, and you can then appeal the rejection on here. I had a lot of success in appealing a rejected postbox appeals.

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You have appealed rejected postbox appeals on here? If my second attempt at my GR Wallbox fails maybe I will try that.