GPS Drift ate my pokestop. Appeal is bugging. halp

If you have evidence that this is an official trail then surely supplying that will help your appeal.

A video of you walking on a path does not prove it is part of an official “Trail”.

It really doesn’t matter what I think as It won’t be me making the decision (just to clarify, I would reject without the evidence).

I will now leave the discussion as I have said everything I have to say.

This doesn’t seem to be the sign that was submitted. Here is the sign:

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Thats… some red squares… ? Idk what discrepency they’re highlighti- oh!! Wait I figured one out!!! Okay ready? The thing on the right is….

A spider web!

Heres some pics of me walking closer and closer so you can see how details are revealed as resolution increases.

I didn’t even see that spider web initially tbh so, good eye! Uhh here’s some more pics of the spiderweb just in case?

After much squinting I… think the red square on the left is meant to highlight the '“United Sign Co.” stamp, but… it’s a white sign in the sunlight being photographed from a distance w an old phone. So… I think something that small gets lost in compression or what haves.

Also the rock on the right fell off so I put it back on, but if you need me to do another-another photoshoot (now with extra rocks!) I can.

This is an important point. The sign is screwed to a tree, and the screws are rusty, so it is clearly permanently installed. However, the submitted documents do not state that this trail is official. You claim that this path connects to the trail and ranger station, but neither your description nor the supplementary information states that the path itself is part of the trail.

Staff is highlighting what they see as being tape, which the team said the sign appeared to be paper and taped onto the tree.

At this point, you have been given a good deal of helpful advise on how to possibly improve on this nomination if you are looking to resubmit. It doesn’t appear that staff will be overturning their decision, so you may just have to resubmit, and make sure to take a better main photo. This one you provided shows that it’s a permanent sign screwed into a tree, and clearly placemarks the area:

Your supporting photo should show the sign and trail together, as the trail itself is not needed to be in the main photo.

Please take some time to review the advise. Sometimes, we do have to resubmit to get nominations and edits approved, and it can be helpful to look at what the issue may be before resubmitting to make sure that it’ll be approved.

Can I just… get a list of all the things I need submit from the actual mods? Cause like… when you submit a pokestop “that the candidate be documented somewhere online” is not typically part of the criteria… and if it is what they need I want to make sure I provide the proper documentation. Y’know?

And if I am allowed to resubmit… uh… I guess it’d be helpful if the staff… mentioned that… somewhere? Cause… this thing here, it’s still listed in my Contributions page as “Approved.” I’m rather worried I’m going to get flagged for spamming duplicates… yknow?

The submission UI leaves a lot unsaid, even the criteria gets a passing remark with a link that is not required to be opened to proceed.

You are appealing a restoration. I have observed that these types of appeal require verifiable evidence.

The contributions page doesn’t currently show changes about the wayspot that has been accepted and removed. In some cases, an approval does not mean it was acceptable in the first place. This is the nature of the review process, sadly.

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The system would be able to tell if you were spamming duplicates, and in this case, you aren’t spamming a duplicate as the Wayspot was removed from the map. The reason it was removed is being that staff didn’t see this as being a permanent sign and not being a part of the larger trail system, and these are things that can be fixed.

Yes, you can resubmit. I would focus on this being an area where one can walk their pets while at the mobile park, which can be a great place to get some exercise. You can still mention that it leads to the larger trail system of the area, but the focus should be on this being an area to walk pets and get some exercise that’s a part of the mobile park.

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This. Focus on what the sign demonstrably is (a pet walk sign). You have done a good job here with the photos, so follow up with a good description and resubmit.

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I would advise against resubmitting removals. I would wait for a final word from staff @NianticAaron after the recent evidence for what was pointed out.

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I second this. My advice to resubmit was when I thought it was a final answer from Niantic.

I stand corrected on the temporary part. If this is an official trail, please resubmit the nomination at the correct location with links/evidence to support your claim. Thanks,

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oh well that makes the path clear then :grinning_face: ty!

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How can you ever be wrong? :saluting_face:

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Wait. So… if it was already Approved… and Niantic Wayfarer Team decided to override that Approval based on the faulty assumption that it was paper with tape…. And now it’s obvious that it’s metal and thus was likely taken down in error…

I mean… it’s been down for almost a week… if it can’t be re-enabled mod side, can I at least be refunded the Upgrade I spent on it? Please?

You’re conveniently forgetting about “no mention of the said trail” and inaccurate location.

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I mean, the location mishap is in the title of the thread… unless you mean to suggest the button we click for when a location is “more than 10m off” always results in the Pokestop being deleted?

I really hope not… I’m certainly going to be more wary about submitting info corrections for any pokestops I see from now on… lest I inadvertantly erase hours of someone else’s hardwork over a misunderstanding.

Reminder that this was literally my first attempt to submit a pokestop. So… sorry for not acing it instantly? I still think it’s worth asking the question even if I get a “lol no.”

Submitting Wayspots at incorrect locations is considered abuse. Misplacement by over 100 meters is not a little misplacement. Also, there is apparently no evidence that this is a trail.

You’ve done well and got acknowledgement that you are safe to resubmit this at the correct location. This doesn’t guarantee that it will be accepted by reviewers, but you stand a good chance even without concrete evidence of a trail (other than the sign itself).

The best (only) thing you can do at this point is resubmit at the correct location. It sounds like you have plenty of submission slots so this shouldn’t be a problem. This specific submission will not be getting reinstated.

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