Inquiry About the Maximum Number of Gyms per S2 Level 14 Cell

General Discussion
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hello

I would like to ask if there is an official limit to the number of Pokémon GO Gyms that can exist within a single S2 Level 14 cell.

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Hello @MrJitraGo

Please see this article shared by @Glawhantojar

https://pokemongohub.net/post/article/comprehensive-guide-s2-cells-pokemon-go/

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Since staff do not acknowledge the S2 cell algorithms, there is no “official” limit. They can add in more gyms than mentioned in that article, but explorers can only create 3 gyms per L14. If there is already a sponsored gym, it will count as one of the three, and explorers will not be able to force any more.

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To further clarify: there can be more than three.

But that can only happen if an existing gym is moved across the L14 boundary into an L14 that already has three, OR by the (artificial) addition of sponsored or ambassador/event gyms by Scopely.

Those “artificial” ones don’t show up on the Wayfarer map, which can cause weirdness.

For example of what the prior poster said AND this…, I had a friend trying to force a third gym in his L14 over the winter, and even after getting plenty of stops it wasn’t happening, and looking in Wayfarer I couldn’t see why. Then in January a sponsored gym (a McDonald’s, which I couldn’t see in Wayfarer) was removed and a new third gym spawned the same day.

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Based on my understanding of Pokémon Gyms (within L14–L17 cells)…
Once there are already three Gyms in the area, only Sponsored Gyms or CA Gyms can be added as a fourth Gym.
but…
it is only maximum for three pokegym only in cell L17?
If all the cell L14 is fully populated with PokéStops…

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The timeline of when the Gyms are created is the main thing here.

  • At the time that a Sponsored Gym is added then you will get an additional Gym. No previous Gym will be removed.
    Example A: Already 6 Wayspots including 2 Gyms. A new Sponsored Gym will be a 3rd Gym.
  • If more wayspots are added that would normally create a new Gym then any current Sponsored Gyms are taken in to account.
    Example B: Already 5 Wayspots including 1 Gyms. A new Sponsored Gym will be a 2nd Gym. If you then get another wayspot (6 standard + 1 Sponsored) you will not get a new Gym.
  • If a Sponsored Gym is removed the cell will be re-calculated and a new Gym created if required.
    Example A: Already 5 Wayspots including 1 Gyms. A new Sponsored Gym will be a 2nd Gym. Another wayspot is then added. (5 stops + 1 gym + 1 sponsored gym). Sponsored is removed then you will get a new Gym to make 4 stops + 2 Gyms as standard.

Standard is…
2 Wayspots = 1 Pokestop + 1 Gym
6 Wayspots = 4 Pokestops + 2 Gyms
20 Wayspots = 17 Pokestops + 3 Gyms

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You have the numbers backward. L17 is smaller than L14.

What I was saying is, community creation can only add a gym if there is currently less than three.

There can BE more than three (there is not actually a limit), but that requires that at least one of them was either relocated into the L14 or was added to the map by some method other than the community process.

If those happen before there’s three community ones, though, they will occupy the quota.

There isn’t another gym creation threshold after population 20.