So your point is that the games where wayfarer is the source wouldn’t have this restriction anymore and as long as people were within interaction range in a safe location that it would be fine?
Interesting point. Since the reasoning for being able to stand right there and touch it is then gone when Ingress separates.
This is a great thread @AliceWonder1511 !
I think the idea of an explicit art and culture criteria would make things easier to explain to new people! Explore covers so much and its not always easy to explain.
@cyndiepooh raised my most wanted option already - a “doesnt meet criteria” option for reviewing. So many things can be permanent, safe, distinct etc but meet no criteria. That would be a big upgrade.
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My idea is for an option similar to appeals which sends a submission to reviewers, bypassing ML.
Limited like appeals to prevent too much absolute rubbish, possibly earned like upgrades ie rewards for good reviewing.
This would help for things like UK postboxes, buildings that look generic, ruins that are overgrown, or other infrastructure that isnt as simple as a mass produced mailbox or lamp post with no significance. It would ensure that local reviewers see the thing and get to judge it, rather than an international appeal reviewer who might not see the significance or a machine which is trained to reject most examples globally and doesn’t yet understand why this is different.
#nominationflow
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My other wish is to remove the cell reliance for deciding what appears in game, and have something judging proximity instead for pokestop creation so that things dont overlap each other.
Proximity is also very important now we have power spots since sometimes these appear right on top of something else and makes it very hard to interact with one or the other
Larger cells for gym formation are still be a good idea in my opinion, but the 1 item per smaller cell is overly restrictive in my opinion especially for rural villages and housing estates which often have a “centre” where multiple things meeting critieria are located, but all within a small area meaning only 1 or 2 can appear in Go.
Niantic themselves override cells all the time with their events like Go Fest (but without proximity), showing that they dont even fully believe in cells themselves! I actually find these events very hard to play as multiple things there can be on top of each other and it gets very stressful at times trying to click the right thing. Proximity rules even of 5-10m would fix this
This would also help with abuse by removing the incentive to misplace things in a lot of cases which would help reviewers when doing location edits
#nomination flow ish
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I would like to see some option for you to be able to see say the last 10/20 reviews that you have done where the decision that you made did not match the majority (approved) decision of the overall reviewing team.
This can be a helpful training tool for people to be able to identify and learn from their past reviewing “mistakes” and better understand movements to their Profile Rating.
#reviewflow
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As someone who plays infress, wish they would have thought of those things when submitting, hate waypoints in the middle of play parks cause its already awkward wnough standing at the edge of the park to take it out, let alone havjgn ti stand in the center, which annoys me when i put in moves to get the waypoint crom the center to the entrance only ro have emily or the help chat reject it, despite it bejng tbe safer option for all
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I agree with proximity to an extent, but rheres also the chance that stuff are within 20m (using ingres as the example) that wont be submitted now. Pogo really should introduce the same thing ingress has where it gives you a wee window to select what youre wanting (rhink it eas called disambigous or something)
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I think a “proximity rule” would have been fine if implemented on day 1. I beleive that switching 9 years in would be such a massive upheaval to the play area that it would now cause major re-action when waypoints where removed.
I am also in the minority (and got some hate the last time I mentioned it so re-affirm this is just my opinion and not a suggestion) that I beleive that some areas are over populated and would not be against a maximum occupied L17 cells in each L14 cell rule.
The only compromise I could see would be if Niantic had some way of knowing which areas are rural that a 2 waypoints per L17 cell rule applied.
Several other games building on the wayspot database remain with Scopely, though, and expanding the radius where wayspots are considered accessible just opens the door to the next stage of measurement lawyering (“yes but if if it’s safe within 80m it should also be safe within 120… etc”) and creates a huge headache at submission stage - are we really going to measure distance on the ground every time while out and submitting? The access rule never had “because Ingress” as its only reason, imo.
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This is called a slippery slope fallacy. On the reviewing side, all they would need is to add a 20m or 40m circle around the wayspot.
The focus here shouldn’t be on some perceived technical difficulties (that can be overcome), but on all the cool things, that would be eligible.
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I don’t agree with the comment about the distance, ignore the actual metres and state "The waypoint can be interacted with from a safe location.
Also, @lenadabest693 idea of a radius circle displayed on the review map eliminates any problem when reviewing.
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The Contribution page should give totals.
Total nominations, pictures, title / description edits, location changes ever made.
And for each of those: totals currently In Queue, In Voting, Accepted, etc.
#review flow
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And that is not Wayfarer related, that is game related.
@gazzas89 Explore already does cover art, educational, historical, and cultural in the Eligibility Criteria:
A great place for exploration
A place you love to venture out to; a destination or a placemark of local interest and importance and which makes our communities unique and shapes its identity. Somewhere or something that tells the unique story about a place, its history, its cultural meaning, or teaches us about the community we live in.
Examples of Wayspot categories
There is a web browser extension plug-in for this if you do a web search for Wayfarer tools.
Not sure which of my comments this relates to as this could relate to more than one 
I have gone slightly off topic (apologies) but I just got replying to others posts.
Plus Wayfarer and the Game are so closely linked that most changes to wayfarer would be due to a change in the game and vice versa.
But the games and Wayfarer are separate, so the rules for how close you have to be are set by each game, and Wayfarer also has their own proximity rules when it comes to safely accessing a Wayspot.
Related, yes, but the same, no. Safe Wayfarer distance is different from the games, and I doubt that will change anytime soon. It’s been discussed often, and hasn’t changed from those discussions.
Also, do you think any of the services, be it a Scopely or Spatial product, want to get involved with something that could be seen as a legal liability? Allowing a Wayspot at an unsafe location and then a player gets hurt or worse while playing at said location could lead to a lawsuit against whichever service allowed the game play location to exist. This is why there is so much legal liability language in the ToS, but there are still limits and a lawsuit could still be filed, and money may have to be spent to defend or compensate, and that’s not good for business.
First, it wasn’t my suggestion. I replied as 2 others had already replied with what seemed like a missunderstanding.
Paragraph 2: The whole thread is in regards to suggestions. Agreed that the suggestion in question was slightly off topic but “It’s been discussed often” isn’t a reason not to suggest it again.
Changing the wording regards the supporting photo has also neen discussed often.
In regards to safety, I don’t think this is valid. If I have to cross the road to get to a waypoint and I get run over is that Niantics fault?
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And I don’t know why a mod hasn’t moved the conversation started out of this thread…
And yes, someone could sue, take legal action for a variety of reasons, in many different countries, some easier than others.
On your Contribution Management page - click a nomination - scroll down to the map -
you should be able to click and it opens a google maps tab with your location pinned. (Same as how you can click the map on a review of someone else’s nomination, and it opens a google map tab.)
(This used to work from your Contribution Management too, but got broken a year or two ago.)
#nomination flow
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Hi @DTrain2002
This sub conversation started at “get rid of stay on top of the POI”. At that point it could be seen as #nomination flow and #review flow. But only over discussing back and forth all other readers can get the pros and cons.
Imo the thread and level of deepness is really good. I’ll still keep an eye on it and know your helping me on that 
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