As you have opened up with the insults I feel happier that I can state that 95% of what you spouted is pure crap.
Nobody has given any reason why anybody would benefit from rejecting “to be nasty”.
What you are stating is a group of random people that don’t know each other have all decided “that’s a perfect nomination, lets Reject it”. It doesn’t make sense.
Let’s assume that a small percentage may reject “to be nasty” the chance that the majority of the reviewers of your waypoint are going to be like that is ludicrous.
There could be another reason why you nominations didn’t get through. Maybe they either did not meet criteria and / or they where crap.
The problem with thinking like this is that there is no possible response that anyone can make that will go down well, except to agree with you. It should be possible to listen to what other people are saying and realise that maybe they have a point.
On some forums that is quite hard. Fortunately, this forum is not an echo chamber.
Thank you for your contributions in helping to be the solution. It really makes a difference.
For everyone else, this is a thread over a week old from somebody who never returned. I think we’re all willing to help revisit if they come back for feedback but in the meantime I think we also agree this current rhetoric is unhelpful and a waste of our time to engage.
Yes yes, that’s always the response here. Tone policing and then condescending to people about how they don’t understand Wayfarer criteria and how there’s some psychological deficiency with the people who can’t get a single stop in their rural neighborhood because the “integrity” crew here think that it’s absolutely obscene for a rural player to have the one bus stop in their town be a way spot.
I’ve tried that with past submissions. Everyone just piles on with the same arcane, absurd criteria.
The answer here is always “post your submission and see what others say then” and the response is also going through the rulebook.
When the rules don’t make sense and they’re too strictly applied based on the personal inclinations then there’s no point.
Wow man I’m sorry the one spray painted mural my rural town looks “not permanent” and “not culturally significant” to you! I guess I’ll keep playing with one poke stop within 5 square miles of me!
We don’t want to stop people getting pokestops, we just want to help within the rules that niantic set up - its their game and their forum after all so we do have to use their criteria and rules.
Happy to take a look if you do want to share your nominations for some advice
There have been many success stories here where we have been able to point out what may be making reviewers (human or automated process) reject a nomination for a new submission. Most of us who respond here do know the rulebook, and are happy to share our knowledge. If you believe the rules are being applied too strictly, then you have a chance to appeal to Niantic. We can’t do anything about what the rules are.
I only see one other time you have posted a rejection within this Wayforum you disagreed with. I’m sorry it didn’t go the way you wanted.
Having a conversation in here allows you the chance to discuss with your peers who, even when the may not fully agree with submitting, can walk you through the process and find ways to improve it or at least give you a more civil conversion and allow you the chance to have a narrative that doesn’t happen in the submission process.
The community is also happy to help when you can avoid name calling and throwing insults.
You can see here for how unhelpful everyone was. They had a lot of fun lecturing and scolding me though! Including the community ambassador who told me that even if it were approved, they would personally make sure it was removed!
The ambassador correctly pointed out that the point of interest you were trying to submit is considered by many to be a racist stereotype, and the kind of thing that people, including her, would report as abusive if they saw a Wayspot like this. This was to prevent you from being flagged from abuse. We did try to be helpful on that post, if you read through the whole thing. But we can’t be helpful when the nomination should not be submitted. Were you unable to find anything else at the apartment complex to submit?
So I first submitted it as a “Jockey statue”. Rejected as “not culturally significant or unique”.
So I looked up the history of it, submitted a genuine historical source of Black historians that said it is a source of pride, and now it’s racist. Rejected.
I submitted it another time as a statuette in the apartment complex that’s publicly accessible without saying Jocko or Jockey. Rejected as “mass produced” and “not unique”.
So what is wanted? And no, no other objects in my neighborhood. I submitted my apartment complex PERMANENT BRICK sign with overly designed REAL flower arrangements and sculpted shrubbery. “Not culturally significant, not permanent or unique”. Rejected.
I submitted a memorial bench. “Could not verify the cultural significance or importance to the community of the person memorialized on the bench.” Rejected.
Can you see how absolutely absurd the situation is here?
It isn’t power tripping. It is people reviewing per criteria. I would suggest you read over the entries in the Criteria Clarification Collection as they address these issues. If you don’t agree with the community decisions or “automated process” rejections, you can make an appeal that will be reviewed by humans at Niantic directly.
There is zero incentive for reviewers to simply reject nominations. If reviewers want to earn the in game medal for Wayfarer in Pokemon Go, they need to agree with other reviewers. So the incentive is to review each nomination and compare it to the stated guidelines. If reviewers reject just for this power trip you imagine, they won’t get agreements, they won’t get progress on the badge, and their ratings will tank. The same would happen if they accept just to accept. That is the way the system is set up.
If the automated process is rejecting your nominations, then the Machine Learning model has not detected anything it has learned to be eligible in your nomination. If the appeals team is rejecting your appeals, they also don’t see them as eligible.
You can campaign for new standards for eligibility. You can check the clarifications to see what might be successful for you to nominate under the current guidelines. You can choose not to participate in Wayfarer, or Pokemon Go for that matter. But insulting reviewers for being on a power trip is not going to accomplish anything, unless it has allowed you to vent a little.
Hey…so I get your frustation but unless you send us detail about the nomination(The photo, description, and supporting information), we can’t help you and we will keep going in circle.