I was beginning to suspect this was Indiana, without bothering to check where Fort Wayne was, just because of the nature of the sidewalk and the roads. It’s much like western Indianapolis.
I always feel a little sorry for anyone in the midwest who likes walking and doesn’t live downtown. In the UK, we have pavements. We take them for granted and just consider them infrastructure, but in the USA, somewhere you can walk is remarkable.
That sign is for a neighborhood. It is not for any kind of trail. Trust me, I used to work in construction where we built neighborhoods. The builder made that sign to advertise their homes. The city had nothing to do with it. It has nothing to do with any trail.
That location is close to Buckner Park. I think you can squeeze in 2 more wayspots, maybe 3 there.
I’ve pinned the large playground that can be added.
There’s a single picnic table out along the back of the walking track. If you write that nomination well, it could be approved.
I think you should also get a wayspot for the open field in the middle but that is going to be a little bit more difficult since there is not a good anchor point. In fact, I would try to nominate the open field and the walking track at this park. But those will both be kinda hard - probably requiring an appeal.
I would look at what this building is over at the church in between the park and this neighborhood. If it’s some kind of gathering spot, it could be eligible. But it’s hard to tell from the map if it’s just a storage building.
The point is the community recognizes it as more than your dismissive contractor advertisement assertion. It is a marker to lead people along the trail to Buckner Park. One where community residence can create a route within the games to walk to the park and new venues being built down the street. By the way they are spots already and additions such as picnic bench areas and pedestrian bridge walks don’t appear to pass muster either. This community has an issue with discernment of the guidelines and neglect the overall Wayfarer Mission Statement.
I truly hope that this post will be the final straw that convinces staff that a clarification is needed for these. I don’t think they ever will after my last attempt at asking for one.
I believe that “unsafe access” was an easy way for reviewers to reject this nomination since we cannot reject for “does not meet criteria” in the current review flow. That also needs to be corrected, but since it has been like that since 2023, I don’t expect it will be, either.
LOL, the entrance for Buckner Park has a signboard but that lacks pedestrian access as well.
They absolutely do have pedestrian access. People that think they do not have pedestrian access lack logical perspective of the guidelines intent.
Go ahead and submit it.
Mod Edit: Removed the unnecessary part.
Let’s back up to a higher level to think about why Wayfarer exists.
It exists to identify real world locations that are great places to be social, exercise, or explore.
What function a wayspot can bring to the game is technically irrelevant. The purpose of the item/location must exist first beyond any game.
So when you say “the community” views this neighborhood sign as a marker to lead them to Buckner Park…what community are you talking about? The few people you’ve asked who play Pokemon GO or the people who live in the area but have no knowledge of any games? Because Wayspots need to serve some function to real people outside of the gaming community. I guarantee you that no non-gamer would look at that neighborhood sign and consider it a marker on the way to Buckner Park.
Then explain to me why Routes were added to the Niantic Games and it is ecouraged to create and share them? Also why do they have to pertain to people outside the Niantic Games when Ingress locations do not in many cases. Why can’t data exist for Pokemon Go that doesn’t apply to other Niantic games that do not come over to Pokemon.
To be clear, Routes are only in Pokémon GO and a totally separate thing to Wayfarer.
Nothing says a Route has to be a trail. I have Routes going around my local park in a loop, or walking to the nearest village, as well as one that takes you round all the local churches.
Please …….Can I remind everyone that it is fine to post views but do remember to be respectful to each other and stay on topic.
Routes through shopping centers get rejected, but Wayspots for businesses can be accepted if the business qualifies. One has nothing to do with the other.
< Routes Guidelines — Pokémon GO Help Center. >
This point of yours doesn’t fit the guidelines of exploration, does it 
Again who cares if it only applies to Pokemon Go there is data points that are relevant to other Niantic titles that are not in Pokemon Go too.
The games, including but not limited to Pokemon GO, are allowed to add any kind of interaction points or features that they want. Those are gaming decisions that are completely separate from Wayfarer. (I have no idea what point was being made with Ingress but I’m going to ignore it since Ingress is now a completely separate company.)
This is the forum for Wayfarer, so we will stick to Wayfarer criteria and guidelines here.
I am actually very glad you came to the forum so we can discuss this. There is a statement made that there must be room for a group at a Wayspot:
”where small groups can congregate and play comfortably.”
https://niantic.helpshift.com/hc/en/21-wayfarer/faq/2775-content-guidelines/?l=en&p=web
This is included in the concept of safe pedestrian access, which a point in a median adjacent to a crosswalk does not have.
I still think that the larger issue is that this is just a sign for a subdivision.
This is your opinion not fact. Just as it is now my opinion that given the discussions and lack of logical thinking on display here, I hope that Scopely dismantles this and gives a better solution. They should add a level of in game spending to qualify. As people who pay into the games further development and keep it free for those that can’t afford too. They also want to see it expand and for more people to enjoy. Also it was your opinion on what you see the Wayfarer Mission as so breaking down your other statements neglecting your projected opinion is quante .
That is a fact. No opinion is stated here.
Fact. No opinion stated.
Fact. Ingress and Wayfarer are no longer connected.
Fact. No opinion stated.
Pay to get a Pokestop?
No, not pay for stops. To have people invested in the game to further it’s growth and development not constricting it to only Cities.
Hey, just wanted to pop in with a suggestion.
Is there part of a homeowner association or other neighborhood group here? It doesn’t look like there’s a common area there, no playgrounds or community centers. But can you suggest adding some Little Free Libraries on the common areas? Note that these still cannot be in private residential area, but they might be approved if the land between the sidewalk and street is considered city land. There’s a sidewalk that goes around a pond, maybe you can ask for some fun and educational signs about water runoff and suburban ponds. Or even mileage markers to encourage people to walk around the neighborhood and have an easier time tracking distance. These could benefit the community and meet criteria to include into Wayfarer.
