Would this be a good submissionen?

[Sylivinia]

I lately mainly submitted some information signs and some trailmarkers, from some forests like 10-15 km away. There are more of them, to go through on my next walks/trips in neighbouring areas.

But some stones, i do come by now and then, which are basically often are old stones there been painted text - some have the names carved in and being painted, some just paint with areas name on, like the one showed - think small than a hamlet, but useally old names from before the numric system with road names. Back then each area, instead of numbers had “sogn” - like a mini county, but like under 1 local church, and then egn/egne - something a bit like hamlet, but maybe be a gathering of either houses/farm helping house’s and/or small farms, occasionally 1-2 big mansions and then those small gathering of houses and small farms, often shared an area name just like this stone - if a bigger mansion or a big farm nearby, the area often where named after those instead. Then each invidually house, would have a name sometimes Forest house, Husly (cover for the weather) or similar. Often their out to roads or paths, sometimes on dirt roads. Some are better maintained like the one showed, others need a cleaning from moss.

[LuigiGamingLP]

The things that are similar that come to mind are Survey Markers and Trail Markers. As far as i can tell, they are neither (despite being kinda cool)

[wooperIooper]

I’m not sure I quite understand what they are, but in your opinion how would they meet criteria?

[Sylivinia]

There old area stones, with the areas names on. Some of them are lost today, gone basically one way or the other. But its telling one, that this areas name are Vrangdal and bit longer down, of the asphalt road there is a different stone, with a different name on, which is that areas name. There used to be some similar ones, at entrences to some villages and hamlets in old days. Most replaced by metal signs, with the villages or hamlets names on. But this area, never grew big enough for becoming a hamlet, but people in old days would inditify them self as from those areas, when going to marked placed or similar 7 km away - which was seen, as far away back then. So those stones old purpose got replaced, by a road name and numbers instead many years ago. But this stone, are one of the kept and mainted ones. So I thought I would ask, around cause I don’t see similar ones in the submissions. Cause it would be great for rural areas, with similar stones if the mainted ones is an option. Cause maybe somebody else, had experience with similar cases.

[Sylivinia]

There are really cool, because of the age and story behind them. Of what I understand most hamlets, villages and so on, used to have similar stones through often with carvings of the places names, at entrence of them. Most are gone by now, cause replaced by the modern village or hamlet signs of metal or aluminium. Sadly a lot of them are lost, through occasionally some places they find them again and put them, in place again for the historical charm.

[LuigiGamingLP]

Its sad that they dont have a plaque next to them that explains the history etc. - cause that would be a slam dunk.

Historical manmade thing just doesnt fit nicely under any sub-category for “a great place for exploration”, tho it definetely fits in the category, as it’s a historical thing itself.

[TjoeMi]

Just try submit them. The only concern is pedestrian access but i guess it have grass strip next to it

[jojenreed64]

This might be a good submission. I can see some possible concerns, though, that should be addressed.

It would help if you provided some proof in your supporting information about the historical relevance of this.

Some might see a potential safe pedestrian access here. I’m not bothered much. It’s in a rural area on the edge of a dirt road.

My concern is that this appears to be on a farm. That is a reason to reject. Nominations on single family private residential property and farms are not eligible.

[Sylivinia]

Location wise, the nearby old farm - no longer in use, just normal private, are not owning that stone or named after it. Its named Elmegård, and is around 250-300 meter longer down of the asphalt road. Its ground first starts, with the bushes around where the grass path is - leftovers of the old path and road system. While the dirt road, are is safe for use and often used for horse riding, biking, walking and so on. Rural wise popular for that purpose, despite the sign says ends blind - thats only for lorries and cars. On foot, horse back or a mountain bike - unless if willing to drag ones normal bicycle around 30 meters, can safely pass through. But yes, most use the grass side, if do get cut back 2-3 times a year, its close to 40 years last time since one last got hit by a drunk driver around the area. Everyone knew the drunk driver and everyone knew who got hit kinda deal, which happended before my life time. I think its more safe, than some of the UK roads I been walking along with pedistan and bicycle shared paths, with the feeling of being less than 10 centimeters from being hit by a car during my family visits.

this map, are with the area name on as a modern one, without house names, farmnames or road names - Which I think, is the better one to use for documation, if doing the submitting. But the area, are also mentioned on some historically church/ school page, for the old school who is private owned as in a family living there today - the reason, to I haven’t submitted that one. Cause I don’t think, their would like people invading their private life. But there is some old documents, who mentions which area people are from and there Vrangdal are mentioned some of the time. Not sure if that be any good documentation? But worth a shot

Marked the areas name up with Blue, cause its a long list of old area names and 2 farm names.

All I know is that, the stone are appartly so old that. That one of the neighbours, who been living here all the time in his 70’s - He took over the parents back then farm, today its just a normal household. Told that he remember the stone, was just like that occasinial added new paint, but always white for remarking up the name. Which is neither of the 2 house holds/ old small farms names. In old days each farm, would have its own name. The two over there, one is named something with dal I think it might be Grandal and the other are named something with lund, I think its Lunddal or something.
Last time I had to use those names, of farms names was back when I talked. With an elderly couple when I was teenager, and they didn’t know which houses had which numbers. But then I mentioned the name, of the house I grew up in. Then their knew all the names, of each farm and said it was nearby Vrangdal and Skeldrup. There are an area stone, for Skeldrup but thats also the name for one of the farms - and its stone are full of moss.

[salixsorbus]

I suspect this stone is just a name marker for a property (house, farm, etc). This doesn’t feel eligible as people tend not to go around exploring private-property markers.

[wooperIooper]

Any idea how old this specific one might be?

[Sylivinia]

No Idea, to being honest, I only knows its older than one of the Neighbours cause I asked the person are born one out of many generations, in the same house and still living there in his 70’s, and he remember the stone from his childhood. Sometimes the best search, are through the people, who lived here long enough with long family history in the area - But I know, its been an old crossing path - the person told me that too, so I searched online for better documation. Where the now grass road and the dirt road connected to the old village path. Only parts of the old village path, do still excisiting. As dirth/fields road today, and not accisible by car or bigger, only accisible by foot, bicycle or horseback. But still excisting and do lead up, to the path there got asphalt back in the 1950’s. From that cross, you could go to either Nødager - nearby village, Mårup - another nearby village, but on the way forwards the bigger town of the area. Forwards Pederstrup through Vrangdal - which on the old maps, do not show the current households down of the same path before, 1870-1890’s, it shows some who do not exsisting anymore through instead, also the last way through that old cross forwards what is todays Aarhus airport, but back then an old bog, there used to be paths through, which connected to the now asphalted road between the now airport and Nødager.

But this map dated to around 1857, show how the roads used to go partially and the landsharing. From a time before we had airplanes, to do the survey from above. The stone are in the middle of an old crossing, non of the farms named after it. But even modern maps, show the area as Vrangdal which is the road but todays Sognevejen. Which happened according, to the maps around 1950’s. Of what I can see from old photos and maps. But the story behind when, the stone got there, who put it there and so on I guess that knowledge are lost to time.
Through found a page, mentioning as a placename, equally to the other areas names of the areas.

Stednavne

[wooperIooper]

I think historical boundary stones (which is what I am understanding these to be?) are interesting and could meet the exploration criterion. I would try submitting to see if your local reviewers would agree

[LuigiGamingLP]

Survey Markers

Survey markers can be eligible if they meet the acceptance criteria for encouraging exploration. Good examples can include survey markers located at the peaks of hills and mountains, at the ends of peninsulas, or on other noteworthy local landforms, so long as they can be accessed by pedestrians through the use of trails or similar paths. Some survey markers might also have an interesting and unique history which may make them eligible; in these cases, submitters should ensure that they provide …

[salixsorbus]

This isn’t very relevant, since these are not survey markers and the op isn’t suggesting they are.

[LuigiGamingLP]

They were used in identifying areas of the map. They might not be conventional survey markers, but they are survey markers (if i understand it correctly lol)

[wooperIooper]

They aren’t. They’re boundary stones