Wayspot Appeal

  • Wayspot Title: Castello Di Statto
  • Location (lat/lon): 44,9096046, 9,5856511
  • City: Travo (Piacenza)
  • Country: Italy
  • Additional Information: The portal of the Statto Castle has been removed without any valid reason since it meets all the criteria of Wayfarer being a point of historical interest. (the portal was also under Cal)
    The portal is visible from satellite (being a Castle) and google street view, also attached is the Wikipedia page where there is all the information you want

Castello di Statto - Wikipedia

Waiting for the prompt restoration given the clear evidence

Best regards

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There is already a wayspot called “Castello Di Statto” located at 44.909319, 9.584713 which is in Ingress. However, for some reason the wayspot in Ingress is not displaying that name (even though that’s the current name in the database), so it’s possible it was changed very recently.

The portal disappeared last night, our player who lives right there noticed this morning.
The attached screen shows that the portal is no longer there but you can see the Castle very well

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Yes, but what I’m saying is that the Portal you can see in your screenshot (which I’ve put a red box around) IS the wayspot for the castle.

I realise that in Ingress, this Portal displays the name “Piazzale Castello Di Statto”, but that is not actually the current name of this Wayspot. The current name of the Wayspot, as seen in the Lightship database, is simply “Castello Di Statto”, so it’s likely that the one that was removed was reported as being a duplicate of the one that still exists.

That portal has always been called Piazzale Castello di Statto since it was created.
Attached is the screen of the creation back in 2014

Yes, but what @hankwolfman is saying is that it is no longer called that. Someone must’ve submitted a title edit for the entrance to the castle and deleted the marker on the castle as a duplicate. The entrance to the castle is now “Castello Di Statto”. It doesn’t seem unreasonable since the entrance is right next to the building itself, but it’s not my call. It just seems to be what happened.

So why not remove the outer one and leave the centered one with the Castle?

Unfortunately, for that, you’d have to get into the head of the person who did it.

Private properties are not valid wayspots.

Owner: private
Visitabile : No

Regards

Nice try, but you’re missing a few key words there, namely “single-family” and “residential”.

I’m just reposting what Wikipedia and all the tourist sites of the Trebbia Valley say, that is, that it is private property that cannot be visited. If the owners make it visitable and open to the public, even just a few times a year, it could become an excellent wayspot. However, it is now private property that cannot be visited, so it is not a valid wayspot.

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It is most definitely a valid wayspot. Being on private property does not automatically disqualify something. As long as people who have the right to be there can reach the wayspot, it’s fine. We’ve been through this song and dance plenty of times on this forum. I remember plenty of topics about wayspots on military bases and private company grounds that people like you wanted removed because they presumably can’t reach the wayspots and players from the other Ingress faction can.

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ok but at what point whether it is a good wayspot cannot be decided by me or you, but by the owners of the castle itself. if I lived in the castle I would certainly not like people coming to disturb me at home, whether they are kids playing Pokemon Go or people showing up at my house to conquer the portal on ingress.
If I were happy to let people in I would make the castle visitable, which in this case is not possible.
However I don’t think that local players are that interested in having the castle itself back, if they wanted a castle in the square they could simply request the moving of the portal exists, which however remains a good compromise because it is outside the castle walls, or ask for another one that will certainly pass the requests of the comm. What they would like back are the tens of thousands of keys accumulated over the years in various backpacks

This sounds an awful lot like an admission that this portal was targeted for removal only because it was apparently an important portal for your opposing faction, because according to you, they have “thousands of keys”.

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Just had a curiosity, based on the information that’s been provided so far, how do you know it’s a valid way spot? If it is private property, what’s to say that it isn’t single-family private property? I mean, aren’t castles residential?

I personally don’t think there’s enough information to judge one way or another without doing additional digging.

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You are confusing the facts:

  1. I reported the portal, it disappeared as private property, and it is as all tourism sites and Wikipedia calmly state, it is not a multi-family property.
  2. I have the right to report any portal that I do not consider valid, like any player in this game.
  3. I am not the one who decides whether a portal should be removed or not, it is Nia who decides.
  4. and most importantly: the name change of the portal next to it occurred after the disappearance of the first one, so your theory that it asked for a name change and then removal for duplicate is wrong because I didn’t ask for any name change.

A quick look at multiple sources it does confirm that this is indeed a private residence. Just to support what you’re saying.

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From various tourist sites it appears that it was purchased in 1926 by Orazio Anguissola Scotti, an Italian noble family, or I imagine it belongs to some of his descendants.

General comment
Can everyone please stop this exchange of comments with accusations being made.
The guidelines are that we expect that exchanges respectful.
To help with this I have set this topic to slow mode.

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Shall I sit down with the Popcorn or can I go about my usual business?

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